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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject:  Steering Rack Reply with quote

My rack is starting to leak, nothing major just wet in certain places. No drips or apparent loss of fluid either. I'm thinking about replacing it, but not sure if I should go after market with a lifetime warranty or get it from the dealer.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Double check the high pressure hose. It will seep/leak and will make the rack appear to leak.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:57 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

This. Had the same issue when i did my motor install wiped the rack and pump with a cloth and never had a drop or leak since

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you replace the rack...Morad Parts. The problem with the aftermarket ones is there are either two or three different steering ratios and it isn't always clear which one you are getting. I spent about $80 on a 'new' rack since my old one was leaking internally and going through the left inner tie rod end every 50K.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:07 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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If you replace the rack...Morad Parts. The problem with the aftermarket ones is there are either two or three different steering ratios and it isn't always clear which one you are getting.
That's because the "rebuilders" don't take the time to properly classify all the options, so you get the exact match for your car. Years ago I needed a rack for a car, & none of the ones they sent over were correct. We tried different vendors, & they all sent the same rack as each other, but they were not what was in the car. Finally we called the rebuilder, & he too sent the same rack. When we called back, he did say very few cars like mine had the same problem. He suggested I send him the rack I had, & he rebuilt that one. Problem solved. GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I'll just go with a OEM or A/C Delco replacement, looking at this part #88955466 now. Although I hear this place is good; http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-2.....mp;vxp=mtr

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's here, picking up the sway bar tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to do the install this weekend.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Good score make sure that you get all the air out paint your sway bar blue lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The deed is done, steering feels tighter and a noise that plagued me for years is gone. Here's the procedure I used after reading various posts and watching You tube videos.
I did the usual put the car on jack stands.I placed the stands at the front of the sub-frame, most people said don't support the vehicle by the sub-frame since it needs to be lowered. I saw a picture where someone lowered the rear sub-frame with the front supported and decided to give it a try. My sway bar wasn't all that bad, but decided to replace it now rather than later. First I moved the drivers seat forward, put the seat belt through it and then moved the seat back to keep the steering wheel straight. I disconnected the sway and with a little finesse I removed it through the drivers side. Once the bar was removed there seemed to be enough room to remove the rack without dropping the sub-frame. The sub-frame bolts were unobstructed, so why drop the frame. I removed the steering shaft bolt, power steering lines, outer tie-rods, rack bolts and removed the rack through the drivers side. I counted the number of grooves on the inner tie-rods, to be used as a reference when placing the outer tie-rods on the new steering rack. I placed both racks next to each other for comparison and noticed the steering shaft connection wasn't oriented the same. So I turned the the shaft on the new rack to match the old one. This helps keep the steering wheel centered. Once mounted further adjustment may be necessary when attaching the steering shaft. The only problem I had during the removal was the power steering lines. They had to be removed from the top through the engine compartment. The wrench I had only allowed limited movement, stubby's would have been better. I plan on purchasing some in the future.

AC Delco rack;

Dorman Sway bay;

Seat belt around steering wheel;

Leaking rack;

Sway bar removed;

Sway bar and rack removed.Notice sub-frame is still attached;



New and old rack. The plastic piece the boot connects to was no longer attached to the rack before I removed it. This appear to be the original rack as indicated by the sticker.;

Shaft orientation before;

After;

Various pictures;




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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:19 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Good pictures, it seems less intimidating than I thought. Although I will have to drop the subframe anyway to resolve the misalignment the car has. Might as well throw a new rack and suspension goodies while it's off Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:04 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Good pictures, it seems less intimidating than I thought. Although I will have to drop the subframe anyway to resolve the misalignment the car has. Might as well throw a new rack and suspension goodies while it's off Laughing


I was reluctant in dropping the sub-frame, due to reading that some had misalignment issues after reconnecting it. I was happy when I realized I didn't have to. Installation is the reverse of the removal procedure. The rack installed from the drivers side. The Dorman sway bar installs from the passengers side, remove the passenger side rotor for more clearance something I didn't do. I installed and torqued everything down before I connected the steering shaft.
Besides leaking, this is what I was experiencing;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXYtBXVQOk
Another video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJD0LOmDiA

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

How does the sway bar feel? Those Dormans are thicker than the stock one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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How does the sway bar feel? Those Dormans are thicker than the stock one.


Haven't really driven it yet, just to the alignment shop and back home. The original bar wasn't cracked, broken or rusty. I decided changed it now, since I was working in that area instead of waiting for it to break. I'll post a review after I've had a chance to really to drive around.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:12 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Everything's fine so far and I'm happy with the new car feel. Here are some additional pics;
Distance between tie rod and sway bar

Distance between down-pipe and sway bar. only the tip of my pinky finger fits between the two, don't know if I'll have enough clearance if I switch to a 3 inch down pipe.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:22 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Sir, I believe that point should go down, not up. You might have it on upside down.

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