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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:44 am    Post subject:  What else causes Service Traction System Reply with quote

Replaced my front hubs this summer but I'm still getting STS messages as soon as I move the car. What else should I be looking at? Struts?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:48 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's more than likely the short little harness that connects to the hubs. I would start there first. Sometimes the connector get corroded and loose or the small gauge wires can break and cause issues. It's a serviceable part at most GM dealerships.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

have the car scanned to tell you exactly which wheel is causing the problem. Like ZSPOT said, its probably the harness

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Yep I had a break in the harness to passenger front. I have a scanner to read ABS codes; got them took the tire off and started following the wires. Not far from the connection it was broken so I spliced in new wire and the light is gone never to return (knock on wood)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:13 am    Post subject:  Re: What else causes Service Traction System Reply with quote

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Replaced my front hubs this summer but I'm still getting STS messages as soon as I move the car. What else should I be looking at? Struts?

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cables
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bad bearings



You should get it fixed as your tires will last longer i was replacing tires every 7k miles

I have 3k miles on my current set and they have minimal wear on them

Falken ZE950 tyres
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:50 pm    Post subject:  Re: What else causes Service Traction System Reply with quote

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cables
sensor
bad bearings

You should get it fixed as your tires will last longer i was replacing tires every 7k miles

I have 3k miles on my current set and they have minimal wear on them

Falken ZE950 tyres


None of these things will cause premature tire wear.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:07 am    Post subject:  Re: What else causes Service Traction System Reply with quote

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cables
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You should get it fixed as your tires will last longer i was replacing tires every 7k miles

I have 3k miles on my current set and they have minimal wear on them

Falken ZE950 tyres


None of these things will cause premature tire wear.

yeah if the traction control is off you will spin one tire while the other does nothing ( this is how I was wearing them out fast)


I suspect the ECM is modified I can leave a pair a tire tracks on the ground . I have left a pair at the local gas station (not intentional though)...


and yes the ground was dry.



scared the crap out of people getting gas..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:28 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I hate to say it, but you definitely have something else going on if you are going through tires that fast. I don't have traction control at all and I don't have any wear issues...I just let off the gas if my tires start slipping.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I hate to say it, but you definitely have something else going on if you are going through tires that fast. I don't have traction control at all and I don't have any wear issues...I just let off the gas if my tires start slipping.


I agree

The trac control doesnt make 1 wheel spin, the open differential does. Its mechanical. Has nothing to do with the trac control. TC just initiates the ABS system to help control wheel spin.

I had the modded SS with a lot more HP than yours has. TC off never caused an issue.

If you are constantly spinning the tires, then you either need to learn to drive with a lighter foot, have way over inflated tires (reducing the contact patch), have very worn tires or have a sever issue in the front suspension.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:45 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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If you are constantly spinning the tires, then you either need to learn to drive with a lighter foot, have way over inflated tires (reducing the contact patch), have very worn tires or have a sever issue in the front suspension.
At the dealer when an employee had his car on the rack, we'd put wheel bearing grease on the tire tread of the drive wheels. The wheels would spin like crazy with the lightest of pressure on the gas pedal. Maybe the OP's neighbors are playing the same trick on him. GARY

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:32 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I hate to say it, but you definitely have something else going on if you are going through tires that fast. I don't have traction control at all and I don't have any wear issues...I just let off the gas if my tires start slipping.


I agree

The trac control doesnt make 1 wheel spin, the open differential does. Its mechanical. Has nothing to do with the trac control. TC just initiates the ABS system to help control wheel spin.

I had the modded SS with a lot more HP than yours has. TC off never caused an issue.

If you are constantly spinning the tires, then you either need to learn to drive with a lighter foot, have way over inflated tires (reducing the contact patch), have very worn tires or have a sever issue in the front suspension.



tires were at the normal PSI of 32(rated to 41PSI)..


ABS light + TC off = potential for single tire spinning..
which was cause by: a bad bearings(or sensor) forgot which it was but i did replace a hub


current set is 43PSI (Tires rated for 51PSI) at 32 PSI you might ride on the side wall of the tire causing a blow out.




also you have to take off here


since local speed limits are higher then your area.

Most areas are 45-55MPH Highway speeds(few areas are 60MPH freeway speeds)



Not taking off can result in a rear end collision.






there has been several fatal crashes because of not going fast enough on take off.




close to nailing a many people that have made unsafe RIGHT turns front of me
also including 3 big rigs


I should have save the videos but i do occasionally upload them to youtube
heres a dumb s**t running a red you can clearly see I have the LEFT green arrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5o8Jyghk_4



It's exactly why I got a bigger car as there is more space to crumble .



in a smaller car you might as well buy your self a casket with your car purchase...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i max out my tires at 44 psi, i drive it everyday like that. highway speeds of 70 mph and i take off like a bat out of hell cause i want to race everyone. i have a bad sensor so my trac is turned off you learn how to take off without spinning. even when i floor it i spin both tires. even when i race people i rarely spin cause i know the traction limit on my tires. same tires for the past couple years and i plan to get a couple more out of them

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Frank wrote:
I hate to say it, but you definitely have something else going on if you are going through tires that fast. I don't have traction control at all and I don't have any wear issues...I just let off the gas if my tires start slipping.


I agree

The trac control doesnt make 1 wheel spin, the open differential does. Its mechanical. Has nothing to do with the trac control. TC just initiates the ABS system to help control wheel spin.

I had the modded SS with a lot more HP than yours has. TC off never caused an issue.

If you are constantly spinning the tires, then you either need to learn to drive with a lighter foot, have way over inflated tires (reducing the contact patch), have very worn tires or have a sever issue in the front suspension.



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Speed limits dont matter by me, my 30mph street is normally traveling at 50-55 and the 55mph highway is 75-80. Im 4 houses of a state road with a 45mph limit. 60-65mph is normal there. So I dont see how thats relevant.

Max pressure on a tire has NOTHING to do with how much psi you fill them too. Thats simply the maximum the tire can hold. Some vehicles require higher psi. The vehicle manufacturer specifies what psi you should be running. At 43psi you are about 10psi over inflated.

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Max pressure on a tire has NOTHING to do with how much psi you fill them too. Thats simply the maximum the tire can hold. Some vehicles require higher psi. The vehicle manufacturer specifies what psi you should be running. At 43psi you are about 10psi over inflated.


i do understand what your saying but lets say my tires are maxed at 44 now whats under inflated for those tires? tires on my 91 are 60 psi stock is prob 40 would they be under inflated?

i have always used the tires max psi not what the car/truck says just because it also says what the weight limit at that psi. and if youre under that max psi by 10 or so you can overheat the tires. now i dont think im a tire expert but if you heat rubber up they will fail or roll over on itself. so you keep the tires at a safe heat range and you dont have to worry about them rolling over and you know your weight limit. but all that being said the tire pressure is more based on the load rating and i would think speed rating

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