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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject:  How hard is a front sway bar replacement? Reply with quote

I know a few of you have swapped out your front sway bars over the years. How hard was the job, and did you need any special tools?
My front bar is cracked on the end, not all the way, so I've got some time still, but I want to find out how bad the job is before I tackle it. I'd like to put in the GMPP bar instead of stock.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:42 pm    Post subject:  Re: How hard is a front sway bar replacement? Reply with quote

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I know a few of you have swapped out your front sway bars over the years. How hard was the job, and did you need any special tools?
My front bar is cracked on the end, not all the way, so I've got some time still, but I want to find out how bad the job is before I tackle it. I'd like to put in the GMPP bar instead of stock.


6/10 without a lift. Easiest way is to drop the subframe and slide it out. Reverse procedure and done. Hard on Jack stands though

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

scott could you be more explicit about your comment 'drop the sub frame'?
as in how far? front and back bolts removed? what has to be disconnected any lines, mounts etc. how does one support the engine/trans combination.
your info while valuable lacks detail for us greenhorns willing to learn from folks like you with a deep well of experience and know how.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

FISH96 wrote:
scott could you be more explicit about your comment 'drop the sub frame'?
as in how far? front and back bolts removed? what has to be disconnected any lines, mounts etc. how does one support the engine/trans combination.
your info while valuable lacks detail for us greenhorns willing to learn from folks like you with a deep well of experience and know how.


Sorry, I was at work and was expecting more to chime in with details. Loosen all the subframe bolts, more on the back than the front, enough to squeeze the sway bar out. no line or mounts. Just disconnect the sway bar links, unbolt the sway bar bushings, loosen the subframe bolts and shimmy the sway bar out

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Thanks Scott, that extra detail really helps. The GMPP bar is a little larger diameter, any issues with it not fitting in the old brackets, or will it come with it's own brackets and bushings?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:06 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Thanks Scott, that extra detail really helps. The GMPP bar is a little larger diameter, any issues with it not fitting in the old brackets, or will it come with it's own brackets and bushings?


They don't come with brackets but it does come with links and bushings that work with the current brackets

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I actually did a sway bar replacement on an impala yesterday. Took maybe 30-45 minutes tops. If its an older car, or the fuel lines are rusty be sure to be careful near the driver side when you feed the lines thru. You do not need to loosen the subframe bolts or drop the cradle, it will slide thru the passenger side no problem, you have to rotate it up .
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Had the same crack you have so I changed mine front and rear to the LS versions 6 months ago. ($12 for both) Came out of the doner car without undoing anything same with my stock bar but had to undo the tie rod for clearance to install the LS bar since I had stands under the cradle and didn'tfeel like moving them. That's the alternative to dropping the cradle.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I actually did a sway bar replacement on an impala yesterday. Took maybe 30-45 minutes tops. If its an older car, or the fuel lines are rusty be sure to be careful near the driver side when you feed the lines thru. You do not need to loosen the subframe bolts or drop the cradle, it will slide thru the passenger side no problem, you have to rotate it up .


Sway bar can be removed and replaced easily enough without lowering the cradle? I just found my sway bar has cracked near the passenger side link. I didn't want to loosen the cradle because I don't want to risk the cradle alignment changing besides the extra work.

I'm trying to figure out which sway bar to get. I have an '03 LS so it has the FE2 ride and handling suspension, but I'm not sure which part number for a direct fit, or what's the deal with the GMPP sway bar. Is the GMPP just the police/tax bar? I'm thinking my original bar is the "hard suspension" in this link:

http://www.gmoutletparts.com/a.....02605-assy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

GMPP is just a bit bigger and is the same bar as the SS suspension. Its well worth it to find a kit for the front and rear, if they are still around.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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GMPP is just a bit bigger and is the same bar as the SS suspension. Its well worth it to find a kit for the front and rear, if they are still around.


I've had this link in my favorites for a long time: http://www.wbodystore.com/susp.....kits-.html

Been debating on biting the bullet on them, but right now money is little scare for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:35 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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GMPP is just a bit bigger and is the same bar as the SS suspension. Its well worth it to find a kit for the front and rear, if they are still around.


Yeah after looking around I found that I can get the GMPP stabilizer bar kit with bushing and end links a lot cheaper than just the original bar alone. The bushings and end links are old and the end links will likely break when removed anyway, plus improved handling and lower cost, the GMPP kit it is.

The service manuals are saying to disconnect the intermediate steering shaft from the rack and loosen the rear cradle bolts and lower the cradle to remove the bar. I'm still wondering if the bar really can be removed easily enough without lowering the cradle. Just removing and reinstall the intermediate steering shaft from the rack is a pain.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It can be installed without dropping the cradle, but it'll take a bit of snaking and poking to get it done. I tried it that way and quickly gave up and dropped the cradle.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:34 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Yeah I think I'll go the route of loosening the rear cradle bolts and lowering the cradle an inch or two. I just didn't want to have to disconnect the iss to prevent damaging it. The ISS should allow a couple inches of travel without being overextended. Were you able to lower the cradle and not have to disconnect the iss?
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It's been almost 10 years since I tackled the job and I redid most of the suspension and braking system when I did the job, but I don't recall disconnecting the ISS. Just make sure you have the cradle supported well when you do it and you won't have a problem. Also be sure to hit the cradle bolts with a torque wrench.... if you don't get them to spec (130 ish), they will pop and make all sorts of horrible noises.

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