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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject:  2014 Impala Braking Investigfation Reply with quote

How scary technology can be when it goes array.

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General Motors' recent recall woes may only be getting worse. According to The Detroit News, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation into 60,000 2014 Chevrolet Impala models over concerns relating to the sedan's emergency braking system.

The News reports that the NHTSA probe comes on the heels of a single complaint, citing "inappropriate activation of the emergency braking system." The official complaint states that the driver "alleges that the driver assist system inappropriately activated emergency braking bringing the vehicle to a complete stop under what the driver considered to be full braking force."

NHTSA reports that the driver "heard three to four beeps from the forward collision avoidance system" in the vehicle in question (a rental 2014 Impala with just 2,500 miles on the odometer), and that "this was immediately followed by an autonomous brake activation resulting in their vehicle being struck from the rear by another vehicle." No police report was filed following this incident, and there were no injuries.

A General Motors spokesperson told The Detroit News that the company is fully cooperating with this preliminary investigation. Stay tuned for more information as it becomes available.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I wouldnt want any of that crap in my car. I want full control of my car at all times. I dont want a computer deciding if I should stop or speed up.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

HA! I called this a while back and it actually happens. Not good though. I wonder why the engineers designed it this way knowing this could happen.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Someone was rear ended and somehow a police report wasn't filed? That is very surprising to me...

Nonetheless, this and other technologies are constantly being forced into passenger vehicles (see mandated reverse cameras as a recent example), and I think it's generally a detriment to drivers.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Also damn those mandated air bags and ABS systems too. That's what is making cars expensive.

We need to go way back to no seat belts too.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Also damn those mandated air bags and ABS systems too. That's what is making cars expensive.

We need to go way back to no seat belts too.


I agree. Some of these features are too intrusive.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Also damn those mandated air bags and ABS systems too. That's what is making cars expensive.

We need to go way back to no seat belts too.


Airbags dont bother me, they are, for the most part, hidden from view and passive.

ABS, I can live with or without. I have experienced the benefit of it and the downside of it

Only issue I have with seat belts is the law. I have no problem them governing my actions when it could harm others. But not wearing a seat belt isnt going to hurt the guy in another car.

Active cruise, park assist, active breaking, etc. I hate them all. I want full control of my car at all times and dont want the computer deciding when I need to speed up, stop or slow down.

Traction control & stability systems, fine with me as long as I can turn them off. And I mean OFF, not limited control that the "off" button gets you on most cars.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Active cruise, park assist, active breaking, etc. I hate them all. I want full control of my car at all times and dont want the computer deciding when I need to speed up, stop or slow down.

Traction control & stability systems, fine with me as long as I can turn them off. And I mean OFF, not limited control that the "off" button gets you on most cars.


Bingo. If the features are going to be included, they should be fully defeatable.

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Bingo. If the features are going to be included, they should be fully defeatable.


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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:01 am    Post subject:  Re: 2014 Impala Braking Investigfation Reply with quote

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How scary technology can be when it goes array.

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General Motors' recent recall woes may only be getting worse. According to The Detroit News, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation into 60,000 2014 Chevrolet Impala models over concerns relating to the sedan's emergency braking system.

The News reports that the NHTSA probe comes on the heels of a single complaint, citing "inappropriate activation of the emergency braking system." The official complaint states that the driver "alleges that the driver assist system inappropriately activated emergency braking bringing the vehicle to a complete stop under what the driver considered to be full braking force."

NHTSA reports that the driver "heard three to four beeps from the forward collision avoidance system" in the vehicle in question (a rental 2014 Impala with just 2,500 miles on the odometer), and that "this was immediately followed by an autonomous brake activation resulting in their vehicle being struck from the rear by another vehicle." No police report was filed following this incident, and there were no injuries.

A General Motors spokesperson told The Detroit News that the company is fully cooperating with this preliminary investigation. Stay tuned for more information as it becomes available.


I own two 2014 Chevrolet Impala 2LTZs. They are my only two cars; I recently sold my 2008 Chevrolet Impala 2LT. Both cars are identical except for the exterior color. The one I have pictures already posted in this forum has an exterior color of Blue Ray Metallic; the newest one (bought in Feb 2014) is in Crystal Red Tintcoat. Both are fully loaded 2LTZs with Adaptive Cruise Control, Navigation, and everything else. What this guy is complaining has got to be a problem with his individual car; every manufacturer including GM makes a certain number of lemons. Both of my cars are extremely safe and have no issues with braking. The Adaptive Cruise Control feature works flawlessly.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject:  Re: 2014 Impala Braking Investigfation Reply with quote

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What this guy is complaining has got to be a problem with his individual car


Or a subset of cars. Lots of recalls or issues only effect vehicles within certain VIN breakpoints for one reason or another.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The factory knows exactly what days faulty parts were installed on the line. So only those cars would be recalled. GARY

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject:  Re: 2014 Impala Braking Investigfation Reply with quote

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What this guy is complaining has got to be a problem with his individual car; every manufacturer including GM makes a certain number of lemons. Both of my cars are extremely safe and have no issues with braking. The Adaptive Cruise Control feature works flawlessly.


Until the one time it doesn't because the computer thinks there's something directly in front of you when there isn't (faulty sensor?) and crash imminent braking happens.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:30 am    Post subject:  Re: 2014 Impala Braking Investigfation Reply with quote

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How scary technology can be when it goes array.

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The News reports that the NHTSA probe comes on the heels of a single complaint, citing "inappropriate activation of the emergency braking system." The official complaint states that the driver "alleges that the driver assist system inappropriately activated emergency braking bringing the vehicle to a complete stop under what the driver considered to be full braking force."

NHTSA reports that the driver "heard three to four beeps from the forward collision avoidance system" in the vehicle in question (a rental 2014 Impala with just 2,500 miles on the odometer), and that "this was immediately followed by an autonomous brake activation resulting in their vehicle being struck from the rear by another vehicle." No police report was filed following this incident, and there were no injuries.


heres my problem with this report. it was a single incident. he said it did it multiple times (well after the second one i wouldnt of driven the car no more.)
no police report on a rental (lmao sound like someone is trying to cover something up)

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Even if it is fishy, it doesn't undermine the argument that autonomous decisions can be made by the car that seriously compromise the drivers ability to control the vehicle.

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