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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:36 am    Post subject:  Need some input on how to fix a bad tile job Reply with quote

My girlfriend bought a house and the previous owners left a hack job underneath an extension to a platform. I've tried matching the tile and apparently this particular type of tile (gold travertine) is no longer produced or available. Now I'm stumped as to what I can do without having to rip out the entire floor. Here is what I am working with.



Possible options I've come up with:

1) Cut the tile in place (hand-held wet saw) and add a border of similar tile
2) Glaze over tile with a similar texture to get a similar color
3) Gut the entire room (12x13) and replace with carpet

I may be overlooking an obvious solution and would appreciate any input.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

looks like the room next to it steps up? You can add a "bump out" like a step and match the wood from the other room.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I've always been told, if you can't match go completely different to work as an accent. The step or bump out looks like the easiest fix to me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:33 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

That's sort of what the previous owners had there. It was done incredibly poorly and wasn't level with the room above it. We are convinced the only reason it was there was so the previous owners had enough room for a queen size bed on the platform. It really didn't work with the way the room is set up.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:19 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I did tile for 5 years and there is only one fix for a hack job and that's to tear it out and redo it if you can't get the same tile. Even if you could the pattern and shade might never really match. similar to putting a brand new coat of paint on your fender then slapping it on your aged car and expecting it to match the odds are low. I would do the step thing pitch mentioned first if you do like the tile ....it would make a good and relatively cheap bandaid fix and might grow on u.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:38 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

We aren't attached to the tile in any way and the step solution is a complete non-starter for her. I'll probably end up ripping out the tile and either re-tiling or put down some carpet. I'm less than enthused about the prospect of removing and disposing of all that tile... but what can you do.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Not having any idea about this stuff...Can you not just put carpet over it,or does it have to come up first?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

You could put carpet right over the top, but I've seen people do that before and the grout lines will eventually show through most carpet. It would also be a problem with the doors in the room. They are really close to the tile as is, adding extra bulk would cause them to drag on the bottom. The job is already gonna be a pain in the ass without having to rehang doors too.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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You could put carpet right over the top, but I've seen people do that before and the grout lines will eventually show through most carpet. It would also be a problem with the doors in the room. They are really close to the tile as is, adding extra bulk would cause them to drag on the bottom. The job is already gonna be a pain in the ass without having to rehang doors too.


Most interior doors can be cut without much trouble, but I wouldn't install carpet over tile.

Personally, I'd pull the tile out and lay carpet or laminate. I also agree about the bump-out. It's a Band-Aid fix and it looks like one, too. I'm not surprised in the least to see the tiles cut below the framing.

Since the room is open to the hardwood/laminate floored area, I'd consider pulling a piece and seeing if you can find something to match it - it's only about 150 sqft you have to redo anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I'm not gonna be installing carpet over the top (and likely not at all since it would end up being the only carpeted room in the house in the near future), but I might do laminate over the tile.

We are replacing the dark laminate with something lighter in color. I'd considering running the laminate across the floor, but my girlfriend is worried that laminate being near the real wood floor in the kitchen would look tacky. That being said, if I am gonna go through the trouble of pulling the tile, I'm gonna re-tile the room.

The more I think about it, despite my reluctance, removing all the tile and redoing it is gonna be the most likely solution to this problem.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:14 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

if it was me, i would go with a 6" (or whatever is needed) black border on the outside this would help tie it into the next room also

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:16 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I started poking around today and found a loose tile. Pulled up the tile and ALL of the thin set that was supposed to be holding it in place can up with the tile. It looks to me like the previous owner pulled the original tile and re-tiled right on top of that without so much as sweeping the debris. I pulled a half dozen tiles today in about 5 minutes...

I really with people would hire professionals to do some work if they are clearly incompetent...


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

But if they hired a professional, think how much harder your job would be....lol

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My Dad made a similar comment when I told him what I found under the tile. I suppose I can be happy about it and make sure it's done correctly now.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Ouch!
Hows the "re-tile" going? I'm interested since I'm redoing an old family house from the 1940's & want to add some tile somewhere.. Not many mods since then, but I've attacked the 1"x3" outer wall construction, crazy for Michigan weather, & replaced the windows as I go along.

Flooring, I started with a concrete slab, covered by lineoleum squares, carpet over that in some spots, a real wreck. No bad thinset jobs like you but I'm still scraping everything before moving on. Really, a thick metal scraper (sharpened) helps in removing everything but it is hard work.

I've had tons of great results with Tarkett brand EZ Plank engineered wood(ish) flooring if thats an option. Tough as nails & easy to lay down, crazy durable. They have a ton of different choices & are available at Menards, FYI. I'm going on my 3rd room with them & very happy. Looks great & seems to last so far.
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