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Replacing A/C cabin filter.

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject:  Replacing A/C cabin filter. Reply with quote

I'm thinking about replacing the filter. I don't know how old it is, but I went to the local junk yard to practice on a few cars. I found about 10 cars, most 2000-2003. 5 had no filters at all, a few had filters that were filthy, & 2 had a plastic retainer to hold the filter in place. This retainer has the TRW logo, & is 12"x4" with 12 slots, or louvers. So do all Impalas come with the A/C cabin filter, & many owners just throw out the clogged filter w/o replacing it? Anybody else seen the retainer I saw to hold the filter in place? GARY

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I don't recall if mine has a retainer or not, but my wife's Saturn has a retainer. I got a fleet car and it didn't have a filter in it when I got it...it may come without one from the factory to save $$.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The cabin filter was optional. I got a replacement filter from Walmart. Copy/Paste from a 2002 owners manual:

Passenger Compartment Air Filter
(If Equipped)
The passenger compartment air filter is located
underneath the hood just below the windshield wiper
arm on the passenger’s side of the vehicle (underneath
the air inlet grille).
The filter traps most of the pollen from air entering
the module. Like your engine’s air cleaner/filter, it may
need to be changed periodically. For information on how
often to change the passenger compartment air filter, see
“Maintenance Schedule” in the Index.
To change the passenger compartment air filter, use the
following steps:
1. Turn off the ignition when the windshield wipers are
in the up position.
2. Raise the hood.
3. Disconnect the windshield washer pump hose from
the fender rail and air inlet grille.
4. Peel back the hood weatherstrip from the passenger’s
side of the vehicle halfway to center.
5. Remove the air inlet grille retainers.
6. Remove the air inlet grille.
7. Remove the air deflector grille in the compartment.
8. Remove the old passenger compartment air filter.
9. Then reverse the steps to install the new air filter.
For the type of filter to use, see “Normal Maintenance
Replacement Parts” in the Index.

Passenger Compartment Air Filter
All Engines . . . . . . . . . . . . . GM Part No. 10406026


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Lonney wrote:
The cabin filter was an optional.

7. Remove the air deflector grille in the compartment.
According to the VIN, my car did come with a cabin filter. The air deflector grille sounds like the part I'm asking about, but only 2 cars in 10 had this piece. I'm wondering if all cars that came with this filter had this piece, or if they got thrown out. GARY

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

9C3 wrote:
According to the VIN, my car did come with a cabin filter. The air deflector grille sounds like the part I'm asking about, but only 2 cars in 10 had this piece. I'm wondering if all cars that came with this filter had this piece, or if they got thrown out. GARY


I'm really not sure, it was easy enough to replace following the instructions.

When I first got my Impala, the A/C had a wet dog smell, turned out the cabin filter was wet and full of dust (and mud being wet). Replacing it soon fixed that Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:34 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I removed those filters from my 04 and 09 years ago because they always were damp and smelled. I put a plastic grate-like material over the holes to keep debris out of the fan.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIGGS.....0804394628
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http://impalahq.naioa.com/HowT.....ilter.html

Also, while you're there... see the little rubber edging piece near where "A"'s arrow tip is? If your car has that I'd say go to the dealer and get the $8 improved replacement for it before your passenger side carpet becomes a swamp.



EDIT: Here it is...
http://www.naioa.com/v2/module.....mp;t=31094
And it was $4.80 at the dealer.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

UPDATE! I changed the filter, & it was filthy, 9 years old, but dry as a bone. The seal that people replace because of water leakage was perfect, & in it's proper place, so I didn't install the 06-07 shield as an upgrade. Over the years I've learned "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". My GF's 06 MC is next. GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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UPDATE! I changed the filter, & it was filthy, 9 years old, but dry as a bone. The seal that people replace because of water leakage was perfect, & in it's proper place, so I didn't install the 06-07 shield as an upgrade. Over the years I've learned "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". My GF's 06 MC is next. GARY


GET THE PART BlackVenom speaks of. It cost me less than $4 at the dealer. If you don't,we don't wanna see a post in the future about how your passenger side floorboard is an indoor pond. JUST DO IT!!! Mine wasn't broke either,but,I had to fix it after two interior floods and drying out the interior. If you don't do it,and it happens,and you don't catch it in time...think about the smell you'll be fighting. IT IS one of the best / cheapest preventative measures you can do for your car. I did everything right with replacing that seal,and it still took a sh*t. JUST DO IT!!! Forget all about that "if it ain't broke.don't fix it" ...it is broke,that's why they made the new part.

You've been warned. Rolling Eyes

Please take the time to read through the link below.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Forget all about that "if it ain't broke.don't fix it" ...it is broke,that's why they made the new part.

I did go to the dealer, & that new part was designed to fit 06+ W body cars, not 00+. Somebody noticed the 06+ part would fit [if modified] on earlier cars, but part of that shield needs to be cut away to fit.. On many of the cars where people describe changing the filter, they said their original seal was laying on the filter, out of place causing the water leak. My original seal is still firmly attached in the correct place, & I've never had a leak. I would do it, but I'm not comfortable with trimming away the plastic that's required to make the 06+ part to fit my 05 car. Thanks for the advice though, & Happy New Year to all here. GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I didn't have to alter anything.

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Doesn't this ridge have to be cut away? GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Doesn't this ridge have to be cut away? GARY


I don't recall having to do that...I may be mistaken. If I'm wrong,my apologies.

Regardless,it's a must do IMHO.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Doesn't this ridge have to be cut away? GARY


I don't recall having to do that...I may be mistaken. If I'm wrong,my apologies.

Regardless,it's a must do IMHO.


You do indeed have to trim the plastic part off, but it's not like its a structural or body component so I don't understand what your issue would be doing it. You really should consider swapping out the part. My Intrigue didn't have the 'modified 06' part before I got it and the inside of the car was all wet from leakage into the blower motor from the filter...

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Just got back from the Buick dealer. They had the rain deflector in stock. It was easy to install, & yes, I can see it's a definite improvement over the original style seal. But I still believe as long as the original seal stays in place, it will not allow water to wet the carpet. Problem is, I looked at over 20 W body cars, & on 50% of the cars, the seal had fallen off, so those cars did have wet carpets. And I worried for nothing, as the modification to break off the plastic was very simple. GARY

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