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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject:  Fuel Filling problems Reply with quote

I've had this small problem for a long time now... When filling the gas tank the auto shut off at the gas pump nozzle keeps popping off... Sometimes an angle change on the nozzle allows it to fill and sometimes I have to pull back the spring loaded plastic shroud around the nozzle so that it keeps on filling... What can cause and correct this?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Evap (charcoal) canister. They get plugged up sometimes and need to be replaced. It's visible in the wheel well by the fuel filler door (might have to take a plastic wheel well shoroud out? I haven't looked in that wheel well for a while).

I don't have a detailed how-to (never had to do it on my car yet), but several members here have done it before. From what I remember of other member's posts, it's not a difficult job.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Evap (charcoal) canister. They get plugged up sometimes and need to be replaced. It's visible in the wheel well by the fuel filler door (might have to take a plastic wheel well shoroud out? I haven't looked in that wheel well for a while).

I don't have a detailed how-to (never had to do it on my car yet), but several members here have done it before. From what I remember of other member's posts, it's not a difficult job.


Looking at the RockAuto site I don't see anything called a "Charcoal Canister".. I see the following: Vapor Canister, Vapor Canister Filter, Vapor Canister Purge Valve and Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Evap (charcoal) canister. They get plugged up sometimes and need to be replaced. It's visible in the wheel well by the fuel filler door (might have to take a plastic wheel well shoroud out? I haven't looked in that wheel well for a while).

I don't have a detailed how-to (never had to do it on my car yet), but several members here have done it before. From what I remember of other member's posts, it's not a difficult job.


Looking at the RockAuto site I don't see anything called a "Charcoal Canister".. I see the following: Vapor Canister, Vapor Canister Filter, Vapor Canister Purge Valve and Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid.


I haven't had to order the part before, so I'd suggest you contact ZSpot and confirm what the part is (it'll be pretty common, so I'm sure he's familiar with it). He may also get a better price than you find elsewhere.

To clairfy what we are talking about here, it's a canister with a filter in it. This canister fits onto the vent line for your fuel tank, so when fumes need to escape the tank, they are filtered instead of released directly to atmosphere.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Evap (charcoal) canister. They get plugged up sometimes and need to be replaced. It's visible in the wheel well by the fuel filler door (might have to take a plastic wheel well shoroud out? I haven't looked in that wheel well for a while).

I don't have a detailed how-to (never had to do it on my car yet), but several members here have done it before. From what I remember of other member's posts, it's not a difficult job.


Looking at the RockAuto site I don't see anything called a "Charcoal Canister".. I see the following: Vapor Canister, Vapor Canister Filter, Vapor Canister Purge Valve and Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid.


I haven't had to order the part before, so I'd suggest you contact ZSpot and confirm what the part is (it'll be pretty common, so I'm sure he's familiar with it). He may also get a better price than you find elsewhere.

To clairfy what we are talking about here, it's a canister with a filter in it. This canister fits onto the vent line for your fuel tank, so when fumes need to escape the tank, they are filtered instead of released directly to atmosphere.


OK, thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It is not difficult to replace but wear some eye protection because when you move that canister sand and dirt will fall.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid. One 10mm bolt and one hose.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid. One 10mm bolt and one hose.


Accessible from the left rear wheel well after taking off the wheel and fender liner?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

No fender liner,,I never remove the wheel.

#25932569 thats for an 05, I think there all the same.

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No fender liner,,I never remove the wheel.


I've never looked in this area of the car. Do you just jack up the left rear wheel and get to it from under the car?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Yep,, look up by the fuel fill pipe, you will see it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Yep,, look up by the fuel fill pipe, you will see it.


I'm sorry for all my questions but RockAuto lists two valves in this area.

Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalo.....cc=1384084

Vapor Canister Purge Valve:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalo.....cc=1384084


Which one?

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Vapor Canister Purge Valve....The second one

Thats what mine looks like on an 05.

Did you try ZSPOT at Briggs? Think you will get a good deal from him.

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Vapor Canister Purge Valve....The second one

Thats what mine looks like on an 05.

Did you try ZSPOT at Briggs? Think you will get a good deal from him.


I'll crawl under the car and look first... Then I will contact ZSPOT...

Thanks for your help and patience!!

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bigdog60 wrote:
Vapor Canister Purge Valve....The second one

Thats what mine looks like on an 05.

Did you try ZSPOT at Briggs? Think you will get a good deal from him.


Crawled under the car... Yup, it's the Vapor Canister Purge Valve with the round body... I blew some compressed air around the area to clean out the dirt and pebbles and sprayed some PB Blaster on the 10mm bolt... Will contact ZSPOT now for a price... Thanks again...

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