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Do I need front hubs?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject:  Do I need front hubs? Reply with quote

So I go to the local Tires Plus for the $20 oil change, & they love to look for things the customer needs. I mention I recently started to notice a squeek on the right side when going over a bump, & he says it might be a strut. But he does tell me I need 2 front hubs. I verified with the car in the air, & with my hands in the 9, & 3 o'clock position, it's tight, but with my hands in the 12, & 6 o'clock position, there's the tiniest bit of movement. Are the hubs shot, or just something to keep my eye on? I will need front tires soon, but they are wearing evenly across. No worn corners. But again, I ask about the noise, & the mgr shrugs his shoulders. He asks if I want to "address the hubs", & I explain to him that with my 30 years of GM parts work, I can get them at dealer cost, & my buddy at the dealer will install them for $50. But they have no idea about the squeek. So do I need hubs? GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

When I swapped out both the hubs in March they were both making a growling noise. The new ones were quiet.
Within a 6 weeks one of them was making a squeaking noise ( sounded just like a flat tire ), so I got a warrenty replacement from Timken.

I would say both noises sounded like a bad hub. Neither had much movement


Keep an eye on it until it warrents being changed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Thanks. There is no noise yet. GARY

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Wouldnt that be the ball joint (movement at the 12 & 6 position)? The hub is a rotating assembly, seems you would have some kind of movement all the way around if bad.

I guess it could be verified by watching the ball joint as you move the wheel, but still.

Left/right movement (3 & 9 position) would make me look at tie rods, 12/6 I'd look at ball joints or strut mounts. Just throwing some ideas out there Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

QuickNick wrote:
Wouldnt that be the ball joint (movement at the 12 & 6 position)? The hub is a rotating assembly, seems you would have some kind of movement all the way around if bad.
This is what I would think. GARY

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Movement at 12 & 6 is usually hubs, 9 & 3 is usually tie rods or ball joints.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:07 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Chamber wrote:
Movement at 12 & 6 is usually hubs, 9 & 3 is usually tie rods or ball joints.


Yes. This rule prevents tie rod/ball joint wear from being labelled as hub wear, reducing parts and simplifying diagnosis.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i have to chime in on this and i do realize this post is a couple months old but. to my knowledge if the hub was to have any play it would be all around. since there is nothing preventing it from moving, most time they will hum or make some other noise never had them move on my car. tie rods would be a 9&3 ball joints would be 12&6 if a bearing is bad the tire would float all around not just at a certain point like 12&6. on my k20 (i know different animal but same basic ideal) but the bearing is gone and when its jacked up the tire will go which ever way you want it to

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

When the ball joints or tie rod ends get dry they squeak. I think there are a couple youtube videos of ford windstars doing that.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Don't forget the control arm bushings...

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