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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject:  F Body Brake Conversion Reply with quote

ZZP sells a brake conversion for W-Body Grand Prix to step up to a 12" rotor and dual piston calipers. I've sold auto parts for almost 10 years now and know that my 04 impala shares a lot of parts with them. Has anyone done this conversion on their Impala. I still have the 16" 5 spoke OEM alloys, but I hope to find some 18" Charger R/T rims after seeing them in barnettimpala's signature, looking good dude Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Lots of people have done the upgrade. Be aware that while you will get better braking performance, your brakes will feel 'spongier'. Stainless brake lines can help limit this.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I had the F-body brakes on my Impala and I really liked them. Iffy's right though, the pedal travel is increased. There are a few of these for sale on the Grand Prix forums for way cheaper than what ZZP is charging for them. There's also a couple pretty good write ups on those forums of what needs to be done. The only modification that needs to be made is the caliper brackets need to be drilled and tapped to accept the Impala's bolts.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I had wondered about how that extra capacity might affect things. I'm considering upgrading the master cylinder as well which would slove that issue.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

F-body brake conversion is a very fun and inexpensive way to upgrade your brakes, just make sure you get the ss lines like other have said. Also, would be a perfect time to paint them. Make sure you sand down and put antiseize on all contact points on the caliper, and put silicone paste of the pins.

Here is a write up for the conversion on this forum.. no pics though.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The OEM 16's will clear those calipers then?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I believe so, its either 16 or 17. If it is 16, it will be a very tight fit but it will work.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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The OEM 16's will clear those calipers then?

No problem.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i also heard that swapping in the camaro master cyl will help with firmness and pedal travel, but never got around to trying it

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

They will definitely clear the stock 16's just to add onto it here's the photo I took when I had them finished for how much clearance you have


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Nice and snug, that's a good look lol. I have the "wagon wheel" 16's not the same ones in that picture but I imagine if those ones clear mine would. I have done disc brake conversions on vehicles that have drum brakes and on those you have to swap the master cylinder because drums operate more on volume than pressure, and disc's are the opposite. So I imagine the spongey pedal comes from the fact that you're moving more fluid into that caliper decreasing the line pressure slightly. I'm pretty sure running a different master cylinder would solve the issue.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you end up doing the conversion, take some pics of the process and after. We love car po*n... Uhmm I mean pics Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I've looked at doing this mod. My question is, considering the stock setup, is the braking balance dramatically changed or is it more of just grippier brakes?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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If you end up doing the conversion, take some pics of the process and after. We love car po*n... Uhmm I mean pics Laughing


Haha I'll remember that when my mod comes in hopefully next week

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I plan on it, the ZZP site has a link to one of the Grand Prix forums with lots of pictures... with broken links Smile I'll make a new folder in my photobucket just for the impala and leave it there lol.

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