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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject:  Camry Accord or Legacy ?? Reply with quote

With the eldest kid working on her license and hopfully graduating to moms Impala in the fall we are casually looking for a replacement for the 2003 Impala wifey has been driving for the last 7-1/2 years. She really loves the IMP and they have taken good care of eachother over the years. It really has been a great car but she says she wants a change ( you know the saying ...happy wife-happy life ). As we and our kids are getting older she wants this next car to have all the bells and whistles ( leather, moonroof, built in NAV, heated seats, ect.. ). And the next car has to have more power than the Imp has ( God I love her ! ). The trend has been to own and drive a car for 6-7 years. I am a cheap bastard so I am not looking a new cars. Likely something off lease or recent trade in 3 years or newer ( low kms, maybe some factory warrenty left ) and try to stay within her appx $20k budget. A newer car makes it less suspicious to write it off thru work Cool and I dont have to worry much about the S.Ontario rusties !

So far I have narrowed it down to 3 + 1 choices ( I want a G8-GT myself but not for her to DD ). She drove a friends AWD Fusion Sport but didnt like the "look" of if so its not on the list. Unfortunately there is really nothing Domestic on the market now that really appeals to either of us. She kinda likes the Cruze but her friend at work also drives one so you know how that goes Rolling Eyes

Probably going to pull the trigger this summer when the 2014 models start coming out.

My #1 pick - 2010+ Subaru 3.6R
256hp 6cyl, AWD, nicely equipped. Less power and a little more thirsty than the other 2 I listed but I love the AWD ( my AWD Safari is a tank and so is the above metioned freinds AWD Fusion Sport ) The fact that its neither a Vanilla Flavoured Honda or Toyota ( or Impala for that matter ) is a plus.
Insurance will be $ 1900 / yr full coverage

#2 2011+ Accord EX-L V6
271 hp v6. FWD, nicely equipped
Insurance will be $ 2350.00 / yr OUCH full coverage

#3 2011+ Camry XLE
268hp, v6, FWD nicely equipped
Insurance will be $1775.00 / yr full coverage

** just as a comparision insurance on the Impala with just basic coverage ( no collision, theft, fire ) is $1450.00 a year and it was just over $2000.00/yr with full coverage

Anyone else have some insight to these 3 cars or any others I may mave overlooked. Not interested in anything from Dodge, Hyundai or Kia .
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I agree with you on the 3.6R. They're expensive to start, not sure you could pull one down for under 20k, but I haven't researched much either. I think they lost some of the additional control for the AWD through their console system (whatever the name for it is) somewhere around the 2009/2010 model.

The Accords are nice but I drove a 2009/2010 with the 6-cylinder and I disliked the delay between pushing the pedal and getting the power. The Legacy may be the same, I never test-drove one... just sat in it and fiddled with everything.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

first of all, how are you paying that much in insurance??!! I don't pay that for full coverage on two impalas and liability on a 1991 chevy pickup, and a 1997 dodge caravan. Second, my first pick would be the Subie. I'm not a honda fan and toyota are pretty bland. actually if you haven't considered it, my first choice would be a fusion. 2 Cents

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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first of all, how are you paying that much in insurance??!! I don't pay that for full coverage on two impalas and liability on a 1991 chevy pickup, and a 1997 dodge caravan. Second, my first pick would be the Subie. I'm not a honda fan and toyota are pretty bland. actually if you haven't considered it, my first choice would be a fusion. 2 Cents


Insurance here is a racket, just like everything else in Ontario/Canada. When I bought the 2003 Impala in 2005, I was 19 and I was paying $408 a month. I now have two points from a speeding ticket a year ago, but my insurance company 'allows' one ticket to be on your license without raising your rates. As a 27 year old, my insurance on the Impala is now about 125 bucks a month for me and my wife (who has a clean license).

Just like auto parts and gasoline, insurance sucks here too. Intrest on your mortgage is also not a tax deduction (I believe it is in the US still)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

ScottMPala wrote:
first of all, how are you paying that much in insurance??!! I don't pay that for full coverage on two impalas and liability on a 1991 chevy pickup, and a 1997 dodge caravan. Second, my first pick would be the Subie. I'm not a honda fan and toyota are pretty bland. actually if you haven't considered it, my first choice would be a fusion. 2 Cents


Yes, in the greater toronto area we get hooped for insurance and its always been that way. Since the early 90's I have been paying appx $ 2k / yr. Move out of the city and that rate drops in half. My sister in Calgary pays $ 900/yr to insure her Corolla.

might atke a swing to the car dealership today and check this out

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-car.....Z455651509
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My opinion would be option 3 (the Toyota) it just seems to be the "middle ground" of the 3 to choose from... I agree with what you said for AWD it's good for winter driving as well... if that isn't a winner try for option 1

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:28 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My first would probably be the Camry, although in SE trim. Pretty good looking car and they haul ass with the 3.5.

I'd probably go with the Subaru 2nd. Have never really been an Accord fan outside of the new Sport model.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Avalon is a better value than Camry XLE - ie you'll pay less to buy it and get more for your money - quieter, bigger back seat, same economy. I'm with JT, Camry SE is the best value Camry tho I won't make any claims regarding their ass hauling ability. Your wife is smart to avoid a Ford, especially an AWD model, absolutely nothing but trouble with that trans, any Ford trans really. Ford is almost as bad as Chrysler. Subarus probably aren't your mechanic's game, do you really want to find a new mechanic? Treat your wife right and get her an Avalon.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject:  which car Reply with quote

My 2 Cents
1. Camry. Prefer over the Honda. Overall seems like Toyota still cares about their product and Honda does not.
2. Subaru. Excellent but may of lost just a touch over the last few years. Great AWD. Good for your area.
3. I Know what you said but the 2013 KIA Optima is a nice car.
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