Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: first oil change help
so as i finally decide to read up on diy oil changes and prepare for my first real mechanical journey, and making several stops to an autozone to get the right oil,filter, and oil filter wrench, not to mention finding the time to actually set everything up, i am still stuck with an overtightened oil plug that is now rounding out with my socket and wrench, there are still flat faces but i dont want to over do it, how can i get this sucker out"???
I'd probably get a set of Easy-Outs like this ( http://community.craftsman.com.....et-reviews ) before trying vise grips. If you still have edges to grip, this should do the trick. I'd be afraid vise grips would round it out to the point that nothing short of pulling the oil pan will get it out.
Protip: If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.
Make sure you're using the proper socket size, not one from the other unit system that's close (ie using a 1/2" for a 12mm socket)
And don't use 12-point sockets if you don't have to. Less surface area against the socket head = more slippage. 12-points are meant for areas where the wrench rotation is restricted.
As far as overtightening goes, use a 1/4" drive ratchet, so that you don't have a ton of handle to torque with. When I put the drain plug back in, I hold the 1/4" drive ratchet with my hand right against the socket, prevents me from overtightening. If the drain plug still drips, you need to replace the drain plug / gasket
Sounds like once you get the bolt out, if the pan isn't cross-threaded, you should replace the drain plug anyway.
thanks everyone! i was using a 6point the whole time switching between a ratcheting socket and standard wrench to see which one i could actually turn something with, but with no luck, im going to try the Easy Out route today, and probably pick up a smaller mm size while im at it along with a new drain plug
so i went out and bought some Bolt Outs from Sears hoping this would do the trick...but nope, the bolt continued to round out even with the smaller mm socket, im at wits end...i have no idea what to do anymore
Seriously not trying to sound like a jerk here, but I'm sure we've all been there at least once.......you are turning the bolt the right direction, right? Lefty loosy righty tighty? Sometimes being under things and upside down can distort your perception on what is left vs right. Again, no offense intended at all, but you did say this was your first mechanical journey.
If the bolt was put on with an impact gun, try and find someone with a cordless impact or even an air impact wrench to see if they can zip it off for you. The hammering mechanism combined with the smaller socket may be enough to break the bolt loose.
Short of that, since the easy outs didn't work, you can try a broken bolt remover. Just be VERY careful to thread it into the bolt head straight so it doesn't damage the threads in the pan. Read the instructions carefully.
No I understand and yes I've tried to triple check the direction every time I put on a different socket or tool, like I said I have always gone to jiffy lube for changes and they probably use power tools ,ill double check tomorrow and try turning it the other way,but I have been using the replacement as a reference by putting the threads between my finger nails and turning it both ways to see if it goes towards my fingers(locking in) our going out(coming out), but what a discouraging adventure haha
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