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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject:  02 LS Complete Brake overhaul Reply with quote

Hey all, my 02 is due for brakes, and we've already cut these rotors once. We have an extra set of calipers & brackets from the old car I had. Me and my dad just disassembled them and we dropped them off at our neighbor because he has a powder coat booth. I detailed his wife's trailblazer for free so he's going to powder coat them red for me.

When they are all said and done I'm going to have to order a rebuild kit, including all seals and everything. Then before we put them on my 2002, we are going to have to order new rotors & pads.

What is the best thing to go with? Should I go Ceramic or Semi-Metallic? I like the thought of no brake dust because 20 miles down the road after I clean my car, my wheels are caked in brake dust...but whatever will last me the longest & good quality, is what I want to go with...

Should I stick with a blank rotor, or is there any improvement with getting a slotted rotor? I hear drilled rotors like to crack so I'll stay away from those.

I may try and talk my parents into switching over to Stainless Steel brake lines which should help my mushy pedal feel.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Rebuilding stock calipers is a waste of time and money, but I recommend EBC for all your pad and rotor needs.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Why do you say rebuilding them is a waste of time and money? The calipers have 200k miles on them, so it really can't hurt.

& I'll look at some of EBC's products.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I have the Goodridge stainless lines on my car. The don't necessarily reduce pedal travel, but they do make the brakes bite a little better. Also I would just stick with blank rotors.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

EBC Redstuff pads and Centric Premium blanks would be my strong recommendation from previous experience. I'm going to be trying out Centric's PowerSlot rotors that have been cryogenically treated soon, they're supposed to be in tomorrow. I have high hopes for these rotors but won't recommend them yet since I have no experience with them.

Edit: Is there a reason you want to rebuild the calipers besides mileage? If the boots aren't torn, they arent leaking, and the caliper slides free on its pins I would leave them alone.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject:  brakes Reply with quote

Any thoughts on installing the F body calipers? Cool

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Or C5 Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I have thought about the upgrade to dual piston calipers, but we just don't have the money to do that now.

We are rebuilding them for the obvious reason that the calipers & brackets have to be sand blasted & baked in the powder coating oven, which would melt everything. So that states the obvious.

I have heard great things about Centric Premium rotors, I like how they are powder coated black on the insides and the sides of the rotor so they don't get that nasty rusty look that my current rotors have.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I have heard great things about Centric Premium rotors, I like how they are powder coated black on the insides and the sides of the rotor so they don't get that nasty rusty look that my current rotors have.


They get the same nasty rusty look, it just takes a while longer. The Centric standard rotors I put on the Intrigue rusted up in a about a year and the premiums on the Monte Carlo lasted about 3 years before rusting.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:55 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Why do you say rebuilding them is a waste of time and money?

Because they're junk. Powdercoating them is a waste of time and money too.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Ahh so an opinion with no fact to back it up..

Great advice.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I went with Duralast Gold Ceramics when I last did my brakes. Stopping power is good, brake dust difference is phenomenal in my opinion. The semi-metallic pads did seem to stop a little better, but at the time I also had driled and slotted rotors, so I don't know the comparison with smooth rotors for stopping power.

I went with the duralast gold due to the lifetime warranty, and the asthetic appeal of the polished backing plate visible through the caliper is nice as well. This is affected by the elements after quite some time though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Those look sweet. How well do they stop? I seen those rotors for a good price and was thinking about trying them out next time I do my breaks. Gotta be better than the R1 Concepts rotors I had that kept warping.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

They're the cryo treated Centric Powerslots. They were $120 a piece with free shipping. I only have 20 miles on them so far so I can't say how they are but right off the bat I can tell they are a huge improvement. I have high expectations from this setup. I have C5 vette calipers to go on with stainless brake lines soon as well.

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