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Do you use an impact on your lugs?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject:  Do you use an impact on your lugs? Reply with quote

I'm just curious if this is a silly question or if I'm incorrect in thinking it's common practice to impact chrome/other lugs (not regular lugs that hide under hubcaps or plastic screw-on lug caps).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

its common practice, but wrong to do, doesnt matter if the lugs are seen or not

You can use the air tools to spin the lugs on, but should be torqued to the proper spec in the proper sequence.

not doing so tends to warp rotors & ruin hubs, both already major issues on these cars, so why help them along.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I airgun them off, but I use a proper TQ wrench to put them on.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I should have clarified further - Of course one should make sure lugs are maybe spun on (started) by hand so as not to cross-thread, and then also once lugs are installed, torqued to correct specs. But how 'bout removal then? Common practice to use an impact, yes?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I don't have an impact so an impact is never used on my car unless in at the dealers for a repair I'm unable/unwilling to do.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Has anyone witnessed tire shops take off and-or install lugs by hand?
I myself have not.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Just because it is a common practice, doesn't mean it's right... I've seen tire shops and mechanics do all sorts of stuff that doesn't fly in my book.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Tire shop guys with a fantasy of becoming Nascar pit crew members don't have the time for a torque wrench, they've got coffee to chug and it's getting cold as we speak.

Ideally their guns would be calibrated regularly to ensure proper torquing is done once they've hand-spun the lugnuts on. Frankly, I doubt that's the case.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Most good shops use a torque wrench, or at least an impact gun with a torque stick to install lugs nuts... takes all of the guess work out

Removing them with an impact gun is ok as long as you are gentle when you first break them loose

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I bring this up because of a recent warranty claim on lifetime lug nuts I purchased. I was told (after the fact, when I was making the claim) never ever ever use an impact on the lugs. This was a little surprising to me, as I wondered what's the point of the 'lifetime warranty' on the finish then, and asked the rep what he thought tire shops do to the lugs.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The couple discount tires I go to around my house always use a torque wrench when putting wheels back on

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I use an air gun and torque sticks everytime.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

chibiblacksheep wrote:
I airgun them off, but I use a proper TQ wrench to put them on.


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I'm curious... are there any certain brands of 'torque sticks' that are better than others? Or just that particular brand.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Torque stick at work, torque wrench at home. If you expect a torque wrench used when you're not looking, you have a whole lot of unwarranted faith in your dealer.
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I'm curious... are there any certain brands of 'torque sticks' that are better than others? Or just that particular brand.

Every torque stick ever made is crap.

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