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would you choose paddle shifter or stick shift
paddle shifter
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject:  paddle shifter vs stick shift gear box Reply with quote

A friend of mine recently bought a new challenger sxt. It's nice really nice anyway he was hesitant to tell me that it was an automatic v6 because he thought I'd laugh at him (which I did) because when he's in my car he always screaming "power" like Jeremy Clarkson. Then he proceeded to brag about his paddle shifters and "sport mode" button. We got into an argument because even though it is a nice feature to go from automatic to semi automatic at will but I feel as though you won't get the same "experience" with paddle shifters that you would with a stick shift and he thinks it's the same and I think It's only similar and paddles are easier on the hand, leg and safer in my opinion. It took me two months to learn to shift a stick with the stalling, missing a gear, etc and it literally took him about 10 minutes to get the hang of the paddle shifters. Yes I know I have an automatic and I know most exotic cars have had paddles for years ? and it seems like paddle shifters are going to be the future of manual shifting. So if you had to choose between the two which would it be ?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i chose stick, only because i have never used a paddle shifter. Something about using my leg and hand, moving the stick into gear, seems more fun than paddle shifters.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you're not pushing a clutch, you're driving an automatic. Paddleshifters are just a semiautomatic transmission.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Stick shift all day. Never look back.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

because of where I live, stick shift is out of the question.

as for the paddle shifters, same thing as the auto-stick feature on my 300, dont think I used it more than a handful of times since I owned the car.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Id prefer the semi-auto over a fully auto, but the whole fun of driving a manual is cluth and knob lol

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The real purpse of a paddle shifter is to accelerate faster. That is if it's a racecar. A true one is a manual transmission, with a clutch, and you just press the button, or paddle which is just a button anyway, and electric systems declutch, shift, and release the clutch, much much faster than a person can do it using a manually operated foot pedal and shifting stick. So if you are racing, your main goal is to get around the circuit faster than anyone else, not preserving some romantic notion of how a car should be shifted.

On many less sport pedigreed road cars, the transmission is a slushbox, and the paddles are added just for fun, so you can act like a raceing driver. The Challenger? I don't know which it is.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Shift buttons, paddles, side sticks and other doo-dads on automatic transmissions are pretty much useless. I sometimes use them on hill descent to kick down if the shifter doesn't have a traditional L position.

On automated manual or DSG vs MT, DSGs are annoying in parking lots and in town. If you saw the Top Gear USA ep. where the boys pick supercars for Donald Trump, the way the Lamborghini makes Rutledge look like an idiot... that's how DSGs make everyone look. They grab clutch over and over at low speeds, at least every one I've seen or driven. Aside from that, they're neat. I'd take a stick in most cases, though. Call me old fashioned.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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The real purpse of a paddle shifter is to accelerate faster. That is if it's a racecar. A true one is a manual transmission, with a clutch, and you just press the button, or paddle which is just a button anyway, and electric systems declutch, shift, and release the clutch, much much faster than a person can do it using a manually operated foot pedal and shifting stick. So if you are racing, your main goal is to get around the circuit faster than anyone else, not preserving some romantic notion of how a car should be shifted.

On many less sport pedigreed road cars, the transmission is a slushbox, and the paddles are added just for fun, so you can act like a raceing driver. The Challenger? I don't know which it is.


Like it or not, you're probably still accepting a weight penalty by choosing a semiauto over a true manual. Weight is the only aspect of a car that affects all other aspects of the car (all bad, in racing) And, there's no skill in squeezing a paddle.

It might be a 'romantic notion', but you haven't got a hope in he11 of ever doing mantenance on a racing double-clutch system unless you're educated to do so.

These ridiculous setups are just further disconnecting drivers from the tons upon tons of steel they're aiming down the road.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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because of where I live, stick shift is out of the question.

as for the paddle shifters, same thing as the auto-stick feature on my 300, dont think I used it more than a handful of times since I owned the car.


I find this interesting, as I use my auto-stick feature every chance I get when I drive my Charger, not because I'm acting like its a manual, though engine braking does become useful, I just prefer feeling like I have that bit of control over the car, though its more or less a mild illusion of control.

I suppose I also figure, since I have it there in the car already, I will use it.

Manual transmissions definitely give far more character to any car they are inside. I wish it was still optional for any car.

As for the super-cars, I am almost glad most are paddle-shifts, the bulk of people who seem to buy them, don't have a clue how to handle the car as it stands. Though it would be hilarious to see someone powershifting through the gears in something like a Veyron. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Shift buttons, paddles, side sticks and other doo-dads on automatic transmissions are pretty much useless. I sometimes use them on hill descent to kick down if the shifter doesn't have a traditional L position.

On automated manual or DSG vs MT, DSGs are annoying in parking lots and in town. If you saw the Top Gear USA ep. where the boys pick supercars for Donald Trump, the way the Lamborghini makes Rutledge look like an idiot... that's how DSGs make everyone look. They grab clutch over and over at low speeds, at least every one I've seen or driven. Aside from that, they're neat. I'd take a stick in most cases, though. Call me old fashioned.


Do supercars even offer the option of a fully manual gearboxe anymore ? I heard somewhere Audi and Porsche will be ditching them soon too

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Regular manual. Although i dont have a problem with an actual dual clutch setup like in the GTR. Dont care about the "autostick" features they throw in as an afterthought though just to make it seem sporty.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Regular stick and clutch pedal please.

There are times that I love to hop in my Monte and let the automatic do its thing, and there are times that I prefer to be in the Camaro doing my own shifting.

I wouldn't want anything inbetween. The computer is just going to take over anyway in a semi-auto, and with paddles how can you skip-shift?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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madbrad wrote:
The real purpse of a paddle shifter is to accelerate faster. That is if it's a racecar. A true one is a manual transmission, with a clutch, and you just press the button, or paddle which is just a button anyway, and electric systems declutch, shift, and release the clutch, much much faster than a person can do it using a manually operated foot pedal and shifting stick. So if you are racing, your main goal is to get around the circuit faster than anyone else, not preserving some romantic notion of how a car should be shifted.

On many less sport pedigreed road cars, the transmission is a slushbox, and the paddles are added just for fun, so you can act like a raceing driver. The Challenger? I don't know which it is.


Like it or not, you're probably still accepting a weight penalty by choosing a semiauto over a true manual. Weight is the only aspect of a car that affects all other aspects of the car (all bad, in racing) And, there's no skill in squeezing a paddle.

It might be a 'romantic notion', but you haven't got a hope in he11 of ever doing mantenance on a racing double-clutch system unless you're educated to do so.

These ridiculous setups are just further disconnecting drivers from the tons upon tons of steel they're aiming down the road.


Hey I didn't say it was practical for commuting to work. Buyers like to see what got raced on Sunday put into the street version on monday. Whether those buyers knkow what they're talking about is another matter, but they have money they want to give to the manufacturer.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Paddle shifters don't mean jack if the transmission they're hooked up to is a POS or the ECM doesn't work well to control it.

Taking a standard automatic and putting crappy little paddles around the wheel doesn't improve upon the standard automatic. That's no different than the little +/- buttons GM had on the side of the gear shift lever. You still have slow shifts, hesitant responses and if the car won't let you bounce off the rev limiter all day, or down-shift rev match, its a joke.

A true automated manual, like a dual clutch manual aka SMG or DSG are only even worth considering when a) the car is so balls out that it'd be difficult to drive with a standard stick and b) its a truly faster variant. Then you're talking about something you take to the track and can consistently cut lap times with it and it has lightning fast shifts, downshit rev matches, etc...

Otherwise get a car with a manual transmission and learn how to really drive. I would not buy a car with an automatic or any kind unless there was no other option.

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