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GM Unveils the all new 2014 Impala
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I guess hey are tryna keep "draw" people in... It's just looks like everything else to me that's coming out I wont buy one but that's my opinion...

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If its goint to to be high $30k and just FWD that makes me consider the Ford Taurus SHO a whole lot more for the same price.


All depends on options really. An SHO starts at 39k, however a FWD Taurus Limited which would be equivalent to the Impala LTZ can be optioned all the way up to $42k. So you're kind of comparing a fully loaded lower trim level to a lesser optioned higher trim. Don't get me wrong I'd still take the SHO too. Then again I don't think I'll be in the market for a 4000lb sedan anytime soon.

I agree with helldo on the engine choices too, seems a little odd with 2 4 cyl options. Neither of which seems adequate for a car of this size. If they wanted a 4cyl base engine they should have just went with the 2.0T.


To be honest, it's not meant to be a fast car, just something to get good gas mileage and get you from A to be. A BMW or Mercedes may be more adequate for your guys liking. Or even Audi.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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If its goint to to be high $30k and just FWD that makes me consider the Ford Taurus SHO a whole lot more for the same price.


All depends on options really. An SHO starts at 39k, however a FWD Taurus Limited which would be equivalent to the Impala LTZ can be optioned all the way up to $42k. So you're kind of comparing a fully loaded lower trim level to a lesser optioned higher trim. Don't get me wrong I'd still take the SHO too. Then again I don't think I'll be in the market for a 4000lb sedan anytime soon.

I agree with helldo on the engine choices too, seems a little odd with 2 4 cyl options. Neither of which seems adequate for a car of this size. If they wanted a 4cyl base engine they should have just went with the 2.0T.


To be honest, it's not meant to be a fast car, just something to get good gas mileage and get you from A to be. A BMW or Mercedes may be more adequate for your guys liking. Or even Audi.


Point A to B transportation are what compact cars are for. Not cars that will option up into the upper $30k area probably. Besides, it has nothing to do with being fast, it's about having adequate hp for a car of it's size. If it wasn't meant to have power they wouldn't offer a 303hp engine with it. This competes directly with the Ford Taurus and the smallest engine you can get in that is a 2.0T. Since GM already has a great 2.0T motor which would make more sense to offer instead of 2 different NA 4 cyl.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's a lot better than one more year of the 06 design. The four cyl will help sell the car to those who do not care about power. Those of us who do, myself included, will probably head over to ford for their engine or keep our SS models. I'd keep my SS and get a new impala as a dd. retire my 03.

I can see why Chevy and gm wants. They want to improve the private market sales of the impala, and the greater market wants a car that can handle expensive gasoline. There's a compromise: more fuel efficiency sacrifices horsepower. We all know that. My point, kudos to gm to try and do something to get tall guys like me into a more fuel efficient car. It will be like my mothers trailblazer. A straight line 6 with no power in a heavy blazer ext. it goes nowhere.

I like it. I wish there was an SS.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

A down side is since there's no longer a police version GM no longer has to make a performance version of it sadly.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The 9C1/9C3 wasn't exactly a performance version in either the 2000-2005 or 2006+ form...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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A down side is since there's no longer a police version GM no longer has to make a performance version of it sadly.


Aside from a different FDR and maybe 1000 bucks worth of stiffer springs and suspension components, the 9c1 doesn't offer better performance than the civilian models...

And I don't think the Police buy many SS models. I know I've never seen an Impala SS on police duty around here.

If you want a sport sedan, look at something from the Caddy lineup. The price is a little higher, but that's how it goes. GM wants to sell this as a volume car, and a V8 or gas-guzzling SS trim is not going to sell in high numbers. The cheaper, more fuel efficient models are going to sell better.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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There's a compromise: more fuel efficiency sacrifices horsepower.


Not at all. High compression tuning, direct injection, electric non-belt driven engine accessories, start-stop technology, turbocharging, diesel engines, hybrid technology, intelligent transmission design, low rolling resistance tires, low drag-coefficient and most importantly weight reduction all contribute greatly to increased efficiency with zero reduction on power generated by the engine or lost at the wheels. Of this list, electric power steering and direct injection are the only two things I see GM opted for. You can argue the 6 speed auto, but the competition has moved on to 7,8,9 gear transmissions, dual clutch manuals, etc...

And hybrid doesn't mean limp performance for efficiency. A car like the Infiniti M35h makes 360hp, gets 32 mpg hwy, runs a sub 14 second quarter mile and that's in a car weighing over 4100 lbs.

The problem is cost. They increase the cost of the vehicle to implement and I imagine that GM took a lot of maneuvers to keep the costs of the vehicle low to keep the MSRP in-line with current Impala pricing and not create a huge jump that would create a shock in their line-up or hurt their competitiveness in the large car market. Currently, a fully optioned LTZ runs about $32k, I don't expect the new Impala to be more than several thousand above that in the end for a fully loaded model.


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I think the fumes of working in this place are getting to you. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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And I don't think the Police buy many SS models. I know I've never seen an Impala SS on police duty around here.


Yea I've only seen one ever myself. A nearby department has a 2006 SS as their K9 car.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I won't argue that its not really a sports sedan. The link below confirms that it won't have AWD even on the long term. The power train and that steering wheel are the downers for me, other then that I'm warming up to the look and kinda liking the look.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/0.....et-impala/

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I think the fumes of working in this place are getting to you. Laughing


It may just be the grad school induced burnout kicking in...

xxkennynycxx wrote:
The link below confirms that it won't have AWD even on the long term.


I can't say I'm surprised. It's a wise move on GMs part to keep the variants of this platform differentiated so they don't cannibalize each others sales.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

(Side note)

I hear GM is working on this.... http://gmauthority.com/blog/20.....-the-3-6l/

I'd imagine this going in the Camaro but Impala maybe??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

fearless2005, you have high hopes bro HIGH hopes... Very Happy but i think the Impala will have that engine in a few years when other sedans are producing a v4 engine capable of making 500 horsepower with 48mpg

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haha I can dream man!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject:  2014 Impala Reply with quote

Number one, I haven't been here in a while. Used to be a die hard frequenter of the site.

My thoughts on the 2014 Impala?

I'm glad that they are finally coming out with something to replace the 06.

It reminds me of how a male cat looks when it is trying to mate. Really narrow on the sides and tall in the middle trying to do something funny looking.

The rear end is too short.

I was hoping that the Impala would be more like a flattened out larger Camaro. It would be just sporty enough but it would be just tame enough to be a large family car.

I have a feeling that this car might end up like the 90s Caprice in the sense that they could change a few body parts or maybe do some kind of body kit conversion and come out with something pretty good.

GM will get it right, and then they will kill it.

Look at the Malibu, its a whole lot better today than it was a few years ago. Maybe the Impala will follow suit.

Go Dodge Charger!!

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