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buying a old car to learn stick shift is it worth it
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject:  buying a old car to learn stick shift is it worth it Reply with quote

The monte carlo is going to be replaced maybe in a year or two. I am looking into a Chevy Cruze or a Chevy Camaro. Cant decide which, one practical, and one not so much. But i am tempted to go for a stick shift trans but i have very limited experience and know nobody who has one. I found a 2002 Saturn in nice shape with 128,000miles and a 5 speed. I am thinking about buying it to learn to drive by rowing my own gears. He is asking for 2300 but if i can get it for 2000 i will buy it. Anyone think this is a good idea or not? I feel its the only way i will know if i would like it or not.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If there is a racetrack near you i would see if they offer a performance driving class that teaches you how to use a manual transmission properly for both public and racing use. Otherwise just learn on the fly with your new car, why spend money on something that you'll tear up for a year
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I think it's a great idea if you aren't certain you would like a manual transmission. I'd rather spend 2000 bucks on a car and drive it for a month or two and sell it to someone else for close to what you paid than buy a new car and decide I didn't like it and either be stuck with it or sell it and take a huge financial hit.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:00 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I bought my Camaro to get proficient with manuals and DD'ing. Picked it up for cheap, love it. I think it's a good idea, but also I taught myself and I'm really good at it and I don't think I did any damage to anything.

So really, why title, register, insure, etc just for a little bit?? Learn in what you want from the start.

Plan on ditching mine in 2-3 years for a used 2010/2011 Camaro SS.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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So really, why title, register, insure, etc just for a little bit?? Learn in what you want from the start.


To avoid buying a new car and trading it in 9 months later because manual transmissions suck in your daily commute.... happened to my dad about 20 years ago...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I think its a good idea. Learning on a beater can be fun too. You can try things you normally wouldnt. You know, donuts, burnouts, shifting w/o the clutch, running into things and not caring, etc. Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I think its a good idea. Learning on a beater can be fun too. You can try things you normally wouldnt. You know, donuts, burnouts, shifting w/o the clutch, running into things and not caring, etc. Cool


That's what rentals are for Laughing

I don't think a manual nowadays are as bad during normal commutes as they used to be. My right leg actually gets more tired than my left.

And I do city driving to and from work everyday.

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That's what rentals are for Laughing


Can you even rent a manual these days? I don't think I've ever seen a rental with a stick.

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Can you even rent a manual these days? I don't think I've ever seen a rental with a stick.


Good question, I never really thought of that lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Unlikely you can get a rental with a manual transmission unless you're renting from the Hertz fun collection, or something similar - and even then, they're probably few and far between.

OP knows nobody with a stick? Really?

Manuals these days are not quite the same experience because most clutches are hydraulic assisted, so the stress on your left leg is not what it used to be.

I think it's really more of a question of wether OP actually drives when he is driving, or if he tries to drive with a coffee in his hand, phone, etc. Driving manual with these others distractions is not going to do you any favors.

I would suggest buying a beater for as cheap as possible. Even if the car only lasts 2 months, you'll know wether you want to shift for yourself or not in your daily drive. A 2000 dollar car now is going to be a 2000 dollar car in a few months, unless you break something important. You could get a real junker for 500 or 1000 if you have somewhere private to practice... a farm or something simlilar, and never have to insure or safety it...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I learned how to drive stick in the arcade. Spent an entire summer going cross-country and Hard Drivin was the hottest game out. I played that game in every hotel we stayed at. When I bought my first stick, I was able to jump in and drive it away. I stalled it just once the first day I had it.

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Is it an SL Saturn? If so 128K is nothing on these cars so 2gs isn't bad. Plus as other have stated if you find out you don't fancy a standard trans you can ditch it for about the same price as you bought it for.

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I spend probably 7-8 weekends a year tearing out engines and transmissions on my buddies Saturn....$2k is a ridiculous price, dont waste your money. I have no idea why people buy these POS cars.

That said, I had very limited experience with driving stick before I bought the sti. I knew the basic concept (I drove big ol tractors when I worked on a farm for 6 years...nothing like a car but the principles are the same). from what ive read the sti is a harder car to nail down, and I managed fine within a few Weeks (my main problem was getting used to the response of the electronic throttle).

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Yeah it's a SL Saturn. Really basic.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. It's helping. Biggest problem is I can't find someone to test drive it for me lol

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Yeah it's a SL Saturn. Really basic.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. It's helping. Biggest problem is I can't find someone to test drive it for me lol

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Well these car are nothing fancy fully loaded. Laughing Either way you can get up to 40 mpg highway with a stick which is nice.

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