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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject:  9C1 Questions Reply with quote

I recently bought a 2004 9C1 Impala. I'm slowly discovering things that are missing that I would like to add, and going to the junkyard and seeing the parts right there for the picking has only emboldened me. Twisted Evil The problem I'm running into is I'm not sure what will work and what won't. I've already found out the hard way (a.k.a. just buying off ebay without first researching for 30 seconds on NAIOA) that the 9C1 doesn't come with the remote keyless entry so buying key fobs doesn't get you anywhere. I've searched quite a bit around the forum and haven't found any definitive answers to these questions, so if they're out there please accept my most sincere apologies.

First, the gauges. The 9C1 comes with an "expanded" speedo. It goes up to 140. It also doesn't have anything but temp, speedo and fuel. Would it be possible to just unplug this one and plug in one from an LS so I could at least have a tach? Or does the speedo (or other issues) prevent that from being a quick swap?

Second, the steering wheel. Mine is all sorts of worn down. The cruise control buttons are even worn off so they just emit a blinding light. Could I go to the same LS and snag the steering wheel with radio controls on it and expect an easy plug in solution?

Third, is there any terrible consequences from installing an aftermarket alarm/remote start/remote keyless entry system and an aftermarket head unit? I've sort of been oogling the LCD touch screen dash units with DVD players built in. My thinking is that my fiancee could watch movies on drives and buy myself some sweet sweet silence, lol. Are there any that just slide right into our stock holes? The stock HU seems rather bulky so that might be an advantage.

Anyway, thanks for any thoughts. Again I apologize if any of this has been covered and I haven't stumbled across it, just thought I should rip the band aid off and ask it all at once. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

FIRST - not really sure, wait for a better answer...lol

SECOND - you can swap the wheel, but the radio controls wont work unless the car had them from the factory. I dont think the 9C1 had radio controls on the wheel.

THIRD - no issues at all, had aftermarket HU and remote start in both of my Impalas. You will need a bypass module for the remote start to defeat the passlock security key crap. The keyless entry will work as long as you have power locks. You can fit a double din in the factory location with the right mount. Some fit better than others.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject:  Re: 9C1 Questions Reply with quote

Danno wrote:

First, the gauges. The 9C1 comes with an "expanded" speedo. It goes up to 140. It also doesn't have anything but temp, speedo and fuel. Would it be possible to just unplug this one and plug in one from an LS so I could at least have a tach? Or does the speedo (or other issues) prevent that from being a quick swap?


I don't see why it wouldn't work. People swap a Monte SS cluster with a 140 speedo into Impalas with a 120 MPH speedos without any problems.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Speedo swap won't be an issue...you just need to get the new cluster programmed with the old cluster's mileage. IIRC, any 01-05 speedo should work, but you may want to do some research. LS Sport or a Monte Carlo 01-03 SS would probably be the best to go with. You could use a 04-05 Monte Carlo or Impala SS cluster if you want a boost gauge that won't do anything (replaces the voltage gage).

The steering wheel can be a bit tricky to pull since there are no threads on the holes in the steering wheel for the puller - you have to get special legs or buy some nuts and washers to fish through on the backside of the wheel with a coat hanger or something similar. If you just want to replace the buttons, I think you can get to them by just pulling the air bag off. If you want get a wheel with the buttons, you will have to swap the whole steering wheel...the wiring may or may not already be there in the harness for the wheel buttons to work.

You can swap in an aftermarket deck BUT you will need to get a special harness with a speaker to retain the warning chimes if you want to keep them, as they play through the factory radio. However, I would just recommend getting a factory radio with a CD player if you don't need anything fancy. The stock stereo actually sounds pretty good without the amp.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I'm not sure if the cop cars have a door lock reciever or not. You could pull your defroster vent up by the windshield and check if one is there or not. And I'm pretty sure you would need to get a non 9C1 BCM as well. I don't think that option is even there. Frank would know.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

On my 9c1, i too wanted keyless entry. I took it to a local shop and had an aftermarket keyless entry installed for $200 - included 2 FOB's and it works the 4 doors and horn. Does NOT work the trunk.

As for the stereo, this can only take a single DIN head unit, but you can still get a flipout screen with dvd player (see this picture of mine) Note: I do not have door chimes. Those wires were cut by the police.
http://i83.photobucket.com/alb.....CN0221.jpg


As for the speedometer, i havent switched mine but have heard you can, just have to be able to set the mileage.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Another question; is this car compatible with E85? I can't say I really comprehend the difference between the fuels aside from the whole 85% ethanol schtick and I wasn't sure whether it would do any damage. I've been combing the threads and haven't seen anything specific for the 9C1. Didn't know if any of you 9C1 guys knew anything about it. I figured 25% cheaper for 20% lower MPG is a pretty decent trade off.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Danno wrote:
Another question; is this car compatible with E85? I can't say I really comprehend the difference between the fuels aside from the whole 85% ethanol schtick and I wasn't sure whether it would do any damage. I've been combing the threads and haven't seen anything specific for the 9C1. Didn't know if any of you 9C1 guys knew anything about it. I figured 25% cheaper for 20% lower MPG is a pretty decent trade off.


No, it's not compatible.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The only way to run E85 on these cars (that I know of) is to buy some sort of a conversion kit, or buy a tuner and change your air/fuel ratio...and you would probably have to get aftermarket fuel injectors with a higher flow rate as well.

E85 is cheaper per gallon...BUT the energy content is not as good as gasoline, thus the need to change the AFR and get higher flowing injectors. I don't know the specific math on it, but instead of getting, say, 23 mpg with gasoline, you may end up with only 15 mpg on E85. In other words, it's not worth it. Smile

As far as the keyless entry goes...I'd recommend going aftermarket and getting an alarm (or remote start) at the same time if that is what you want. Even if you got the remote control door lock receiver module out of a junked car, you would still need to buy a new Body Control Module and have it programmed (typically only at the dealer) which would cost you well over $250 (not including the RCDLR), so you might as well go aftermarket. Trunk pop will work provided the installer wires it properly. Smile

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