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No flap thingy at the top of the filler tube?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:05 am    Post subject:  No flap thingy at the top of the filler tube? Reply with quote

Hi everyone and Happy Thanksgiving!

So in this thread I asked about a fuel smell in my car. Well, thankfully, that was mostly attributed to the EVAP canister valve shorting out, so the problem is mostly gone. But since then I've filled my tank twice, and both times I get that darn gas smell in the car again. But now it goes away quickly, rather than being constant like before, so it's just when I fill up. I seem to remember the top of the filler tube in my '06 having a flap that's shut until I push it open with the fuel nozzle, then it springs back shut as soon as I pull the nozzle out when done fueling. My '07 doesn't have that. Is it supposed to? That'd explain the post-filling smell, right?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Could very well be contributory to the problem. The smell will exist until the gasoline on the fuel filler neck walls evaporates away.

Sadly, I can't confirm wether or not you should have one on that model year. Possibly, it is just hidden further down in the filler neck. Hopefully it is not broken off! Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Once you put the fuel cap back on, the neck and flappy thing are sealed. Not sure how fumes will escape unless the fuel cap isn't sealing.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's just right when I fill up though. So between the time I take the cap off and put the nozzle in, and between the time I take the nozzle out and put the cap back on, there's plenty of time for fumes to get out. I'll take a closer look to see if the flap is maybe farther down, but I could swear on my '06 it was at the very top. Can anyone with an '07 confirm it's the same as the '06?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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It's just right when I fill up though. So between the time I take the cap off and put the nozzle in, and between the time I take the nozzle out and put the cap back on, there's plenty of time for fumes to get out. I'll take a closer look to see if the flap is maybe farther down, but I could swear on my '06 it was at the very top. Can anyone with an '07 confirm it's the same as the '06?

My '05 has a flap, my '06 does not. Neither smell of gas at all. I'm just say'n.
Might think about a loose evap hose or cracked charcoal canister. Do you have a cel?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My 04 has one.
My 09 does not.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

All right, guess it isn't the flap then. No CEL but the "Tighten Gas Cap" message has come on a couple times since I got a new evap canister valve. Gas cap is brand new... but maybe there's another evap problem somewhere else. Thanks for checking on the flap for me!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I had the same question about the absense of the flap when I first got mine too. The guys in the forum here told me it's not supposed to have one, that it is designed and manufactured that way, and so did the dealer! That was 2 years ago.
Another possible offender is the evap check valve/solenoid or whatever it's called, behind the left rear wheel.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Yeah, that solenoid was shorted and it was just replaced. So that *shouldn't* be the issue... it has gotten better. Now instead of a constant gas smell, it's only when I fill it with gas. Will just have to pay better attention next time I fill it up to make sure it isn't spilling somewhere. Maybe the CEL will come back on so I can take it back to the dealer :p
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