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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject:  Power Steering went out and car died. Reply with quote

I was driving on the highway and all of a sudde my engine lost torque. I was trying to accelerate but it wpuldnt go faster than 40 mph. My cel was blinking. Luckily there was an exit. I pulled off and before I could stop my battery light turned on and my power steering went out. I pulled over and tried to start the car. It's starting but with a terrible rumble, shutter, misfire. I can't drive it as the engine doesn't have enough power. This is very similar to the time my maf went bad which I replaced about 2 years ago. I bought a new maf with lifetime warranty. I'm writing this as I sit on the side of the road and wait for &aa to come. I could swear it's the maf but I need to get the code read.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:58 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

You can just unplug the MAF sensor and start the car up. If it's the MAF you would be fine driving like that. But it sounds a little more serious than that.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

A blinking CEL is usually always a current misfire. Get the codes read and find out which cylinder is misfiring. You could always unplug the MAF and see if that's what's making your car run like complete s**t, you can drive the car with the MAF unplugged.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Power steering depends on the engine, so it dies after the engine dies, not before.

Check your fuel pressure regulator! Remove the vacuum hose for it and check/sniff for fuel. When mine crapped out spectacularly 3 years ago, the engine was bucking and misfiring and smoking like mad, I guess it didnt like 70 psi fuel being injected directly into the intake manifold Laughing

Unplug the MAF and see if it runs any better.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Mechanic wants to replace the CAT, I asked him if there was a O2 code, he said no and the clogged cat was killing vaccuum which is why my engine is misfiring and shaking...... Im not so sure he's right. What you guys think.? I also realized that I gapped front plugs to .40 when I replaced them about 1000 miles ago, there was a cracked plastic piece near the fuel rail.... I don't think its the cat, it doesnt make any sense.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Mechanic wants to replace the CAT, I asked him if there was a O2 code, he said no and the clogged cat was killing vaccuum which is why my engine is misfiring and shaking...... Im not so sure he's right. What you guys think.? I also realized that I gapped front plugs to .40 when I replaced them about 1000 miles ago, there was a cracked plastic piece near the fuel rail.... I don't think its the cat, it doesnt make any sense.


Disconnect the downpipe to rule out the cat. Easy as that. IIRC, you aren't supposed to touch the gap in iridiums.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Bad cat sounds probable, 2001 & 02 had high cat failure rate. I believe there was a recall or refund for bad cats.
Not possible to gap a plug at .40 ,that's 4/10 of a inch. Should be 0.060"
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Im With Stupid
From what you posted plugged cat was my first thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

you guys are making it a little less painful to ask him to go ahead with cat. I just think hes wrong because there's no emissions codes. The problem is exactly like the car in this video ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkhs2q99BY&feature=related

I also think the Gm warranty was extended to 12 years 100k for cats on '01 model. .... as quoted from pontiac forum "Special Policy Adjustment - Catalytic Converter # 05551 - (Sep 14, 2005)

Models:
2001-02 CHEVROLET IMPALA, MONTE CARLO
2001-02 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX
2001-02 BUICK REGAL

EQUIPPED WITH 3.4L (RPO LA1 - VIN E) OR 3.8L (RPO L36 - VIN K) V6 ENGINE

Condition

Some customers of 2001-02 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo; Pontiac Grand Prix; and Buick Regal model vehicles, equipped with a 3.4L (RPO LA1 - VIN E) or 3.8L (RPO L36 - VIN K) V6 engine, may experience a condition where the vehicle exhaust catalytic converter is replaced due to complaints of lack of power or illumination of the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). This may be due to the front endcone insulation from the catalytic converter breaking away and blocking the front of the first catalyst brick and preventing the free flow of exhaust gas through the converter.

Special Policy Adjustment

This special policy covers the condition described above for a period of 10 years or 120,000 miles (190,000 km), whichever occurs first, from the date the vehicle was originally placed in service, regardless of ownership. The repairs will be made at no charge to the customer.

For vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or after September 15, 2005 are covered by this special policy and must be submitted using the labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to September 15, 2005 must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.

Vehicles Involved

2001 Chevrolet Impala 19100001 - 19378250
2001 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 19100001 - 19378233
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix 1F100004 - 1F275188
2001 Buick Regal 11100004 - 11338085
2002 Chevrolet Impala 29100001 - 29374833
2002 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 29100016 - 29374832
2002 Pontiac Grand Prix 2F100019 - 2F276927
2002 Buick Regal 21100001 - 21288762
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Now I think I fall in under this. My car has 80k miles. But im not sure if my vin fall under this. The ID on my title is a bunch of letters but the last 8 digits are 1935XXXX. But I am confused because in the bulletin it just shows the number and I dont know if my vin falls under this because of that. Any Ideas? If I am eligible Im not going to pay out of pocket, im going to call AAA, have them tow my car from the local garage to a GM dealer. Then if it is the cat (which I dont believe it is) they will replace it for free. What you guys think?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The cat failing on these cars are a well known problem for the earlier years.(defective cat that the cone breaks and plugs it)
Its worth eliminating it as the problem before throwing more $ into other parts.
Its a simple check pop the cat off the down-pipe and see how it runs.
If it runs like normal pursue the warranty.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Im going to ask the garage to do that. If they dont im going to take it to a dealer because Im not going to pay out of pocket for a new cat when its covered,

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's not 12 years, it's 10 years...

And given your car is a 2001, unless it was originally put in service after 11/25/2001, you aren't covered

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Update*
Got car towed to dealer by AAA today for free. They said "its the cat". They replaced the cat for free, but they still had a misfire. They replaced a coil pack for 1 and 4 cylinder and the ignition module. Now the car is not violently shaking i runs mostly smooth. However, now it is extremely bogged down. I put my foot all the way to the ground and its very very slow to accelerate. Like I can feel the engine is producing power but its not delivering it to the wheels. Let me know if you need me to describe the symptom more. Everything I look up on the forum for "sluggish" suggests cat replacement, but thats done and it still runs badly. Any direction here ? Im thinking bad gas possibly but still have about 1/3 tank so need to burn most of it before i fill up. any Ideas? Oh and also the mechanic replaced the downstream o2 sensor. I am hypothesiziing that it could be learning the computer so its not running well... Just another idea.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Check that the wires are not reversed on the coil pack that was replaced.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I'll check that out now...... just checked and they are on correctly

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