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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject:  About to throw this car in the trash Reply with quote

Radiator is about to get replaced for the 2nd time and i was wondering if i could run water for a day or two, just to make sure all the crap gets out. Is that ok?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Definitely, as long as your weather temperatures stay pretty constant. Although you shouldn't have to run it for 2 days, just flush fill with water run a little, flush, fill with water, run a little. etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

thanks. while i was installing i noticed this. Look familiar to anyone? Theres oily looking water and some nasty looking gunk around the T-stat also, the head looks wet. yay


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

yes, you can run with just water, but you run the risk of overheating. Coolant also raises the boiling point of water, lubricated the cooling system and is designed to dissipate heat faster than just plain water.

Remember, you car will run between 195 and 215 depending on conditions and driving. Water boils at 212.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Remember, you car will run between 195 and 215 depending on conditions and driving. Water boils at 212.


I thought the pressure of vacuum that the system is operated on raises the boiling point of water.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Coolant... upper intake manifold gasket or maybe throttle body gasket.

It's very red, though. You're not using dex-cool?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:35 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Remember, you car will run between 195 and 215 depending on conditions and driving. Water boils at 212.


I thought the pressure of vacuum that the system is operated on raises the boiling point of water.


it does, but there are additives in the coolant that helps too.

The problem comes when people call it "anti-freeze" when its actually "coolant" People think its sole purpose is to keep the water from freezing in the winter.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I thought the pressure of vacuum that the system is operated on raises the boiling point of water.


it does, but there are additives in the coolant that helps too.


Agree with you on that, but he would be fine just running water, since it shouldn't really boil at 212 under the pressurized system right?

Granted, you don't want to just run water, it shouldn't be an issue in the short term.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Boiling point of water at 15 psi is 121C (250F), that's why pressure cookers work.
Antifreeze is a poor conductor of heat. Want to overheat your car, run straight antifreeze.
Antifreeze lowers the freezing point, prevents rust and lubricates the water pump. It also raises the boiling point a few degrees, minor compared to the freezing protection.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i just wanted to cycle some water through the system to flush out some of the crap. Im not planning on running water the whole time.

No. This time i did not run DexCool. I had so many problems when i did, that after the 5th flush I used a gold coolant made my motorcraft. Once i get all this stuff cleared up, ill probably go back with the dex.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, have you changed your intake gaskets in the past?

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Out of curiosity, have you changed your intake gaskets in the past?

Yes. I started with the elbows and slowly made my way to both UIL and MIL. All parts of the cooling system have been replaced. I forgot all about the TB gasket and my car is pushing 170k on the same gasket.
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Out of curiosity, have you changed your intake gaskets in the past?

Yes. I started with the elbows and slowly made my way to both UIL and MIL. All parts of the cooling system have been replaced.


Just wondering because I have new intake gaskets as well and I'm running DEXCOOL with no problems.

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Out of curiosity, have you changed your intake gaskets in the past?

Yes. I started with the elbows and slowly made my way to both UIL and MIL. All parts of the cooling system have been replaced.


Just wondering because I have new intake gaskets as well and I'm running DEXCOOL with no problems.

it worked great for me. after 150k it was all down hill.


Does fluid run through the TB or the TB spacer? Could it leak fluid?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

found something new today while trying to finder where (if any) fluid runs through the TB. This bolts was'nt even screwed in! Looks like a manifold bolt. what do you guys think....


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