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'02 Impala: No Start, Then Brake Pedal Start

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject:  '02 Impala: No Start, Then Brake Pedal Start Reply with quote

'02 Impala: No Start, Then Brake Pedal Start

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148k miles. 1LT model.

Wife got in the Impala this past weekend and said the car wouldn't start. I told her to make sure she had the transmission selector in PARK because she'd made that mistake once before. 2nd try (verifying PARK), same thing ... no start. I subsequently tried with the key and sure enough ... no start. Lights came on on the the dash, but just a faint noise (not really a click, sort of a "poof") and nothing.

But then I stepped on the brake pedal, turned the key, and it started !!

Later that day, for a sanity check, I leaned into the car sideways on the driver's seat and turned the key (no brake pedal), and the car started (like it always used to .... I was starting to think you needed your foot on the brake to start the car, but this has never been the case with this car).

Any ideas as to what happened here? There was no SECURITY message (which we've seen before as a reason for a 'no-start' condition, but this hasn't happened in several years now, and had only happened a couple of times EVER). Also, the battery looked OK (although it IS 4 years old now). The car hasn't been getting driven as much since I bought the 2011 Equinox in January. Just weekends, but usually every weekend and I had just run it on the Sunday 6 days previous without any problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I always thought you had to be on the brake to start the car, I never looked into it because I always step on the brake to start the car, just a force of habit and a safety measure.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I never have my foot on the brake when starting my Monte. Usually I'm putting my stuff for work on the passenger side as I reach over and start the car in the morning.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:39 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

chibiblacksheep wrote:
I never have my foot on the brake when starting my Monte.


I always do (probably as a result of driving a manual truck for work when I was younger), but I know it's certainly not required for our cars. A few years back I was drive my ex-girlfriends S60 and put my foot on the brake pedal when I started it... she freaked the hell out. She thought that you shouldn't put your foot on the brake when you start a car and I caught hell for it.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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She thought that you shouldn't put your foot on the brake when you start a car and I caught hell for it.


The reason for ex??? Laughing

What the "1LT" model for an 02 imp?

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how do the dealer's expect us to get the cars there if they don 't run at all?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:01 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

habermehl wrote:
IffyG wrote:
She thought that you shouldn't put your foot on the brake when you start a car and I caught hell for it.


The reason for ex??? Laughing

What the "1LT" model for an 02 imp?


Yeah I thought it was just Base, LS, and SS with the sport models in between.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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The reason for ex??? Laughing


Among other things... that chick turned out to be bat s**t crazy.

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What the "1LT" model for an 02 imp?


Way to save your post from deleted for being useless. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Way to save your post from deleted for being useless. Laughing


SHH! I gotta get my comments in this place somehow!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Not sure why it would do that, I'm guessing just another stupid electical problem that will most likely never happen again. I've never put my foot on the brake when starting. I start mine still out of the car, then get all my stuff in and everything, let it set for a few min then take off.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Sorry about the "1LT" stuff. It's just the base model, I guess (3.4L). GM has me confused with their use of "LS" "LT", "1LT", "2LT", across multiple models. I had been shopping for a new Chevy for about three years seeing those LS/LT designations in my sleep before finally buying the 2011 Equinox (1LT). I guess back in 2002 it was just base Impala (3.4) and the "sport" model (3.8?).

Anyway, I think you're right - it was just some quirky electrical thing - like the radio blasting and not being able to be shut off without pulling the fuse. That happened to me (and a friend with his '02 Malibu) ONCE.

Question is though - did pressing the brake "fix" the problem, or was it just coincidence? Probably never know, right?
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