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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject:  water/methanol injection Reply with quote

Anybody ever use this? The little bit of research I've done so far seems to be nothing but positives. It should help with the knocking and allow me to run higher boost. It's not too expensive. Highest stage kits run in the $700's. I don't think I'll need anything radical. The one that I'm looking at now is here http://www.coolingmist.com/det.....url][/url]

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The only thing I don't like about it is that you have no warning if the pump decides to quit in the middle of a pull. You have to very vigilant with it making sure there are no leaks and the reservoir stays full.

How much boost are you running now?

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I see it the same way as making sure your gas tank has to have gas in it.. Very Happy But yeah, I hear ya. I'll probably get the 2 1/2 gallon tank. The one I'm looking at has a low fluid level warning and other safeties installed. You know me, I don't drive that hard very often anyway. Only at the track or on dyno pulls.

When driving around town, I keep it set at 8psi. No need for any higher, but for power runs, i'll put it up to 10 or 10.5. I figure I can run 12psi and be ok, so I stay well under that number. With this, I think I'll be comfortable running 11psi.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

What are you running for a tune? I would think getting a solid tune on it will yield some good results. I think of meth injection as a band-aid of sorts, but if you're just looking for a safety net at the track then it would probably work out for you.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Of course. Always a tune to accompany engine mods.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I think of meth injection as a band-aid of sorts


This. Street cars running meth full time are just trying to cover up s**t tunes or make power beyond what their car is capable of. All you need is pump failure or to run dry and you'll most likely need a new block.

Meth should be viewed the same was as running high octane race fuel, only for special occasions such as dyno pulls or special track days. Not as part of your primary tune.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Summit sells Snow Performance, you can get kits for around $350. I know they range both higher and lower, but an option for you

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Meth should be viewed the same was as running high octane race fuel, only for special occasions such as dyno pulls or special track days. Not as part of your primary tune.


Couldn't agree more.

So, what I'm gathering here is that it is a useful tool?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

RedMonteSS wrote:
[So, what I'm gathering here is that it is a useful tool?


It can be, but just don't make it the foundation of your setup. Its net effect is the same as running 100+ octane race fuel. If you think of it the same way, it helps you wrap your head around it better.

There are no advantage to meth by itself unless you tune for it. Unless your engine was knocking now, it would prevent knock, maybe net you some more power you're currently losing to detonation. But that takes us back to the band-aid argument if you're using it to fix problems with your tune / setup as it is.

My viewpoint is water injection should only be considered after you've ruled out all options with high octane fuel. High octane fuel is generally cheaper in the long run, easier and less prone to result in failure.

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