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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject:  ABS/Traction Control/Parking Brake/Service Traction Light On Reply with quote

As the title describes, my LS has developed a problem. The other day i started it with it's remote start (after maket) and when i jumped in the car, the abs, parking brake, traction control off lights were on and as well as service traction control in the message center. This same lights came on about 6 months ago but only lasted a day after i made a sharp turn with the steering locked out to the left. It's been on now for 4 days, and does not appear to be going off..

After reading a few other posts of the same problem, none seemed to mention the parking brake light. Would this be related to the rear hubs or sensors?
Would there of been a short or voltage serge when i started it with the remote?

whats your take on it

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

since you mentioned it started happening after you jumped the car, I would suggest a BCM.

Similar thing happened to me after a jump, only my gauges started flaking out and I would get an occasional no-crank, even though power was getting to the starter..

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The OP didn't say he jumped the car, he jumped in the car. Scan for codes, could be a wheel hub/sensor issue. Search here for ground wire issues for the BCM and wheel sensors. If that doesn't do it, start looking at the BCM.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My bad...
I just re-read it. I guess I was reading too fast. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:00 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

did u throw a code?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

My guess is he has an ABS code or two, but we most at home scanners can't get at them. He'd need to haul it to to a shop and have it checked out.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

How ironic...I was reading this thread a couple days ago and thought to myself and said wow my car hasn't done this in awhile....

Yesterday when I was leaving a friends house I was about to make a left onto the road when my Trac Off, ABS, and Service Traction Light came on. It really pissed me off.
Weird thing though is I turned the car right off, and back on and it didn't do it again.

First time it's done this in over 10k miles..
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Cycle the parking brake to make sure it is released.
A draging brake can also cause this light show.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

how much would a bcm cost on average?

all of these lights turned offand it lasted for about 4 days.

yesterday i started the car with the remote start and the dash is lit up like a christmas tree again. i'm starting to think that there is something going on the the remote start module thats screwing up the car. i'm gonna get my shop to scan and see if theres any codes just to make sure.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

You likely have a bad sensor in a wheel hub, which unfortunately you must replace the entire hub, even if the bearings aren't bad, but don't rule out the fact that you might have a hub harness going bad somewhere too.

Back a couple years ago, my ABS/TC light was on all the time. I had the codes read and I was told it was the right front hub. So, I had both front hubs replaced (just to be safe) and I still had the issue. Turned out to be the harness. After I put the new harness in (thanks to ZSPOT), I had no more issue.

After re-reading your original post, I doubt you have a bad BCM, but you can send ZSPOT a PM for a price. He will get you as good of a price as any, if not better than most on an OEM part.
I mis-read your original post and when you said you "jumped in the car," I thought you said you "jumped the car." My bad Embarassed

You will have to have the dealer scan it and they can tell where the issue is. But keep in mind that it could either be the hub OR the harness in that area....they can't differentiate between the two.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Arvetus wrote:
You likely have a bad sensor in a wheel hub, which unfortunately you must replace the entire hub, even if the bearings aren't bad, but don't rule out the fact that you might have a hub harness going bad somewhere too.

Back a couple years ago, my ABS/TC light was on all the time. I had the codes read and I was told it was the right front hub. So, I had both front hubs replaced (just to be safe) and I still had the issue. Turned out to be the harness. After I put the new harness in (thanks to ZSPOT), I had no more issue.

After re-reading your original post, I doubt you have a bad BCM, but you can send ZSPOT a PM for a price. He will get you as good of a price as any, if not better than most on an OEM part.
I mis-read your original post and when you said you "jumped in the car," I thought you said you "jumped the car." My bad Embarassed

You will have to have the dealer scan it and they can tell where the issue is. But keep in mind that it could either be the hub OR the harness in that area....they can't differentiate between the two.


You can save yourself some money if you have an Advance Auto near you or their equivalent. Some of them are carring the new Actron CP9580 Scanner that can read ABD codes as well as OBDII Powertrain.
If it gives you an ABS error code, its true that it won't be able to tell you the difference between a bad sensor, which requires replacing the hub, or just the wiring harness, but at least you'll know if that is the issue and which corner of the car you need to focus your attention on.
BTW, to throw a plug in here, if you end up finding an ABS code, and after troubleshooting it, are in need of the rear ABS harness, please shoot me a PM. I have a good one from a 2004 Impala, and as far as I know, 2000-2005 are the same,

Good Luck.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

thanks for the tips. i hope its a a hub or a harness. i can get a complete ac delco gm part hub for $70 canadian.

i had my garage scan it, it's got 5 codes Shocked
C1248
C1277
C1298
C1254
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

LSsport38 wrote:


i had my garage scan it, it's got 5 codes

C1248
C1277
C1298
C1254



What's the 5th?

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Wheel speed sensors should generate a signal over 100 mV when a wheel is rotated by hand at a speed of one evolution per second.

RELAY & PUMP RELATED CODES
C1214 System relay contact or coil circuit open
C1217 Pump motor short to ground (GM cars)
C1217 BPMV pump motor relay circuit open (Tracker)
C1218 Pump motor circuit shorted to voltage
C1242 Pump motor circuit open
C1243 BPMV pump motor stalled

WHEEL SPEED SENSORS
C1221 Left front wheel speed is zero
C1222 Right front wheel speed is zero
C1223 Left rear wheel speed is zero
C1224 Right rear wheel speed is zero
C1225 Left front excessive speed variation
C1226 Right front excessive speed variation
C1227 Left rear excessive speed variation
C1228 Right rear excessive speed variation
C1232 Left front WSS circuit open or shorted
C1233 Right front WSS circuit open or shorted
C1234 Left rear WSS circuit open or shorted
C1235 Right rear WSS circuit open or shorted

MODULE CODES
C1236 Low system supply voltage
C1237 High system supply voltage
C1238 Brake thermal model exceeded (brakes hot)
C1241 Variable effort steering circuit malfunction
C1245 Low tire pressure detected
C1247 Low brake fluid detected
C1254 Abnormal shutdown detected
C1255 EBCM internal malfunction
C1261 Left front inlet valve solenoid
C1262 Left front outlet valve solenoid
C1263 Right front inlet valve solenoid
C1264 Right front outlet valve solenoid
C1265 Left rear inlet valve solenoid
C1266 Left rear outlet valve solenoid
C1267 Right rear inlet valve solenoid
C1268 Right rear outlet valve solenoid
C1272 Left front TCS valve solenoid
C1274 Right front TCS valve solenoid

DYNAMIC REAR PROPORTIONING (DRP) CODES
C1248 DRP function disabled (set by combinations of other codes that affect DTC operation)

TRACTION CONTROL CODES
C1275 PCM requested ETS/TCS to be disabled (engine problem)
C1276 Delivered torque signal circuit (serial data problem)
C1277 Requested torque signal circuit (serial data problem)
C1278 TCS temporarily inhibited by PCM (engine problem)

BRAKE SWITCH CODES
C1291 Open brake lamp switch during deceleration
C1293 Code C1291 set in previous ignition cycle
C1294 Brake lamp switch circuit always active
C1295 Brake lamp switch circuit open

TRACKER CODES
C1215 Idle up circuit malfunction
C1257 Acceleration sensor malfunction
C1258 4WD switch malfunction

CLASS 2 COMMUNICATION CODES
C1298 PCM class 2 serial data link malfunction
U1016 Loss of communication with PCM
U1255 Serial data link malfunction
U1300 Class 2 short to ground
U1301 Class 2 short to voltage
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

c1245 low tire. the info center on the dash didn't display any thing. i dont think its really accurate anyways. i used my steel wheels for 3 winters with no sensors. the low pressure light would come on the first km each wheel change over, i would reset and it woudn't display until i put the stock rims back on if they had a low.

thanks dennis for the outline of the codes.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

LSsport38 wrote:
c1245 low tire. the info center on the dash didn't display any thing. i dont think its really accurate anyways. i used my steel wheels for 3 winters with no sensors. the low pressure light would come on the first km each wheel change over, i would reset and it woudn't display until i put the stock rims back on if they had a low.

thanks dennis for the outline of the codes.



Yer welcome!

I seem to recall somewhere that when there is an ABS system fault it turns off the TP monitor system, that might be why you didn't get an indcator for that.
You have an '05, right? It doesn't have TP sensors in the wheels, the system uses the ABS system sensors to detect a wheel turning at a noticably slower speed than the other 3, which would be caused by low pressure. I dont think the wheel sensors became standard in cars sold in this country until 2008 if I'm correct about the year. The reason your light came on after a wheel change might be because they were a slightly different diameter than the other tires and the system was confused. It is recommended that you reset the monitor after changes like that.
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