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Resonator Delete Questions 3.8L (Cost, Legality, Insurance)
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Question Resonator Delete Questions 3.8L (Cost, Legality, Insurance) Reply with quote

How much would this cost at a local shop in Missouri?

How much better would my engine sound?

Is it legal in Missouri? (Pass inspection?)

Would my insurance care about such a minor modification? How much might they add on to my insurance cost?

(Keep in mind exhaust is 100% stock right now.)
Answers to any or all of these would be great! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

1) however much they charge for a section of straight pipe and half an hour of their time

2) it'll sound like ass

3) refer to your local vehicle code and inspection regulations. In Tennessee all they care about is having a catalytic converter and gas cap, so they wouldn't bat an eye at a resonator not being there, but YMMV

4) No, why the hell would they?

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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1) however much they charge for a section of straight pipe and half an hour of their time

2) it'll sound like ass

3) refer to your local vehicle code and inspection regulations. In Tennessee all they care about is having a catalytic converter and gas cap, so they wouldn't bat an eye at a resonator not being there, but YMMV

4) No, why the hell would they?


Thanks for the quick response!

Would it sound at all better than stock though?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's pretty subjective, but I don't like the sound of these cars without a resonator. It's not as bad with stock mufflers, but with anything aftermarket you introduce a ton of drone without the resonator in place.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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It's pretty subjective, but I don't like the sound of these cars without a resonator. It's not as bad with stock mufflers, but with anything aftermarket you introduce a ton of drone without the resonator in place.


Interesting. Do you think if I keep the stock muffler it would be a step up at all?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you are looking for better sound, removing the resonator is not the way to go. Your money would be better spent on an aftermarket muffler and labor to install it. I can't imagine the price difference would be that much if you are paying a shop to hack up the exhaust vs installing a muffler.

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If you are looking for better sound, removing the resonator is not the way to go. Your money would be better spent on an aftermarket muffler and labor to install it. I can't imagine the price difference would be that much if you are paying a shop to hack up the exhaust vs installing a muffler.


Ok and do you think my insurance would go up because of that? I'll look into it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

No. Why are you so hung up on your insurance going up? It's not like you are adding thousands of dollars of aftermarket gear you want covered in the case of theft...

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:28 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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No. Why are you so hung up on your insurance going up? It's not like you are adding thousands of dollars of aftermarket gear you want covered in the case of theft...


Some insurance companies will not insure "modified" vehicles, such as an LS which has been supercharged - especially when you are power modding, as opposed to something cosmetic.

Most people don't know that and never mention such a modification to their insurance company.

Technically in the event of an accident, the insurance company could claim the policy is voided if you misrepresent the vehicle they are insuring, which is what you would be doing if you supercharged and didn't mention it.

Will most companies ever find out if you modify your car? No. Would they care about an aftermarket muffler? Small fries, I would imagine.

I know my agent personally, as well as the president of my insurance carrier. If you're truly curious, I could inquire more... but even a direct answer from said people doesn't mean your carrier will have the same opinion.

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I haven't had a resonator on my MCSS for five years, there is no drone. I have stock mufflers, the car is quiet at cruising speed. Not as quiet as a German luxury saloon, but quiet enough.

Your insurance won't go up. It isn't illegal in any way. No one will ever know. Get the shop to kill the U-bend when they do the surgery.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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I haven't had a resonator on my MCSS for five years, there is no drone. I have stock mufflers, the car is quiet at cruising speed. Not as quiet as a German luxury saloon, but quiet enough.

Your insurance won't go up. It isn't illegal in any way. No one will ever know. Get the shop to kill the U-bend when they do the surgery.


Awesome Very Happy. Sound better than stock at low revs and city driving? And could you estimate a cost including the u-bend delete?
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And could you estimate a cost including the u-bend delete?


Pick up the phone and call your local exhaust shop. It's going to vary wildly between shop to shop and any numbers thrown out in here will be relatively worthless.

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Awesome Very Happy. Sound better than stock at low revs and city driving? And could you estimate a cost including the u-bend delete?


My exhaust sounds very ordinary, you wouldn't look at my Carlo and say, "Oh hey, that guy has an exhaust!" All I had done was the U-bend and resonator removed. Shop labor rates vary widely nationwide. Maybe it'll cost you a hundred bucks, maybe two hundred, whatever.

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Awesome Very Happy. Sound better than stock at low revs and city driving? And could you estimate a cost including the u-bend delete?


My exhaust sounds very ordinary, you wouldn't look at my Carlo and say, "Oh hey, that guy has an exhaust!" All I had done was the U-bend and resonator removed. Shop labor rates vary widely nationwide. Maybe it'll cost you a hundred bucks, maybe two hundred, whatever.


On a 3.8 or 3.4?

Hmmm. Would you say it's worth doing though if I got a good price?

And also (this may decide the whole thing for me) how big of a deal is the u-bend delete taking into account the oxygen sensor? Is that dangerous for the sensor in the process of changing the pipe?
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Just do it.

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