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Is she really dead? Ignition Switch? BCM?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:29 pm    Post subject:  Is she really dead? Ignition Switch? BCM? Reply with quote

Ok guys so my ignition switch has been going haywire. I replaced it with a new one from the dealer with keys. Did the relearn and what not. And still nothing. The switch turns everything on but will not initiate anything. No nose from the starter or anything. I'm at a lost help me out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

You said it came with keys...did you replace the ignition switch or the ignition cylinder? Two different things...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I got a new cylinder and switch
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

describe the problem in more details, like the engine won't start but you will get lights? are the lights dimmer than usual, and lights from the gauge cluster? Explain a bit more in detail what is happening, and we might be able to give you some more advice

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I had to replace my battery. I have a video of what the car does when it does crank. When I drive the gauges go hay wire or PRND321 disappear and I have is low fuel and speedometer working. I did some searching and found guy who spliced the two purple wires on the OBD II connector together. He said it worked for him. I was going to do that, but it has already been done. When I turn the switch all lights and dash comes on, but when i switch to start everything goes off except the check engine light. No bump from the starter or anything. It doesn't try to crank or anything. If I put dielectric grease on the connector that goes to the passlock would that work? I've read where some people cut the yellow wire, measure resistance, and add a resistor to the black wire and yellow half going back to the bcm. Some also have said that when the car cranks cut the yellow wire, but the security light will stay lit. The bulb can be removed from the dash- d14? correct me if i'm wrong. I tried the relearn like 3 times. Could the spare key play apart in the problem too? Because that's all I have for my old cylinder. I'm open to try anything guys I've missed a whole week of work and school. Any suggestions? Local GM told me $2300 for bcm, pcm, ignition parts, etc. I just gave the m$2700 for the tranny.

Here's the video:
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http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6025/devb.mp4
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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When I drive the gauges go hay wire or PRND321 disappear and I have is low fuel and speedometer working.


That's usually a bad ignition switch (not cylinder or passlock)... assuming you checked fuses, connections, grounds...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Fuses? Where are the grounds located?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Fuses?


You know, the little colored plastic things in the fuse box

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Where are the grounds located?


All over the place... if you are going to try and track this down on your own, buy a service manual

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

When I turn the switch on. I hear a click from the fuse box on the drivers side could that b a sign of a bad fuse?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

No, that's a relay engaging...

I doubt it's a fuse, but you should check them anyway... you should also check the grounds, but I'm guessing bad ignition switch

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

So the switch is y its not cranking? Do u recommend cleaning those 5 lil pins? Or jus buying a new switch?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:19 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

just a thought.

Has anyone thought about taking the starter off and Taking it into an O'Reilly, Autozone, napa, or other parts store that tests starters for free.
My Son's Malibu had the Starter die in December. Same symptoms. Turn the key .. Dash lights were good and when turned to Start position Nothing. No Click, no noise nothing.

The test is free and only 20 minutes to get it out and 20 minutes to put it back.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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So the switch is y its not cranking? Do u recommend cleaning those 5 lil pins? Or jus buying a new switch?


Possibly, or possibly not. You haven't done enough troubleshooting to tell,. but the gauges 'rebooting' is usually a bad ignition switch

I would replace... but that's just me...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I live right by advance. Any advice on starter removal? My fuses aren't broken but do have a little brown film
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you decide to remove the starter and test it.
First thing... disconnect the Battery Negative terminal First.
Get under the front and remove the plastic dust shield to expose the 2 Bolts holding the starter on the engine/transmission area.
Take a picture of where the wires connect to the Solenoid before undoing them from the starter .
Then remove the 2 bolts holding it to the Engine Tranmission area. and slide it out. Watch for any shims that may be present. ( not usual , but on Rare occasion on will be found.)

To install reverse the process.
If it tests fine.. BBE can handle the electrical/Electronic stuff.
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