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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject:  Which one would you buy? Reply with quote

First off, let me say that I know this is my decision and my decision alone, but although I'm not very active posting on NAIOA.com, I read a LOT of posts and have come to trust many of your opinions.

I recently came across some extra money and, because of various reasons, am looking to use it to purchase another W-Body. I've spent a few months looking around off-and-on and in that time, have narrowed it down to three cars, all three of which are approximately the same price, all have clear CarFaxes and all are still available.

Sorry about the poor-quality photos--these were all taken from the dealer websites.

2005 Impala SS



This car is my personal favorite of the three. It has 51,000 miles on it and, except for a minor scrape on the rear bumper (which I never noticed until the dealer pointed it out to me), looks absolutely brand new inside and out. If there was an option on the 2005 Impala SS, this one has it. The car is beautiful, from the interior to the finish--and I personally love the way the silver looks on these Impalas. The dealer was asking $11,500, but I had them talked down to $10,500. It is located about three hours from where I live (after finding it on the web, I actually drove to take a look at and drive it).

The problem with this car is, after getting back home and talking it over with my wife and deciding to pursue the car, I had a local Goodyear place take a look at the car. They say they found a few things wrong with it: the oil-pan gasket leaks, the rack-and-pinnion leaks and a valve gasket was leaking. When I spoke to the dealer about this, they said they'd have their mechanics take a look at it to verify and would make good on getting the car repaired. The next day, the dealer called me back and said the only thing they could find wrong was the oil-pan gasket. He swore up and down that they found nothing else wrong. This made me a little wary, so I somewhat backed off the car.

But don't get me wrong...I LOVE this car.


2004 Impala SS



This car is your typical black 2004 Impala SS. It has 63,000 miles on it and is also located about three hours from where I live (although in the opposite direction of the '05 Impala Smile ). I went to look at this one too. This car's interior looks brand new (except the floor-mats, which are dirty, but underneath is pristine). The exterior is about what you would expect for a six year old car. The finish still shines, but it has various minor scrapes and scratches. The back bumper has a large, 5" scrape (about 1" high).

It has most of the options I am aware of for the '04 SS's, but is missing a few, such as no satellite radio (which isn't a deal-breaker by any stretch) and no cassette deck (does anyone still use those?). It drives very well and corners very tightly.

The dealer is asking $10,995, but is willing to sell for $10,500--but no lower. The dealer is actually a combination mechanic's shop/car dealer in a small town. He's the only mechanic in town. He tells me, and is willing to put into writing, that if I buy the car and drive it home and have my mechanic look at it, and if he finds anything major wrong, the dealer will make good on the repair.

I would be perfectly happy with this car, assuming it's mechanically sound, but it doesn't LOOK as nice as the '05, is a year older and has 12,000 more miles for the same price.


2004 Monte Carlo SS



If there is one word to describe this car, it would be... "black". It's a black Monte with blackouts on the headlights and taillights with a black interior. This car, like the '05 Impala looks and drives like it's absolutely brand new. Although it has 71,000 miles, it has obviously been babied. I would say that from and appearance condition point of view, this car looks even nicer than the '05 Impala. Although I love the Impalas, I've always had a bit of a soft-spot for the Monte's, which is why this car made my list.

It's located about 50 minutes away from me and, after calling the dealership it's at to inquire about it, they offered to bring the car to me to let me keep it overnight (at no cost to me), which I took them up on. They delivered it to me by 6:00 p.m. in the evening and picked it up again at 10:00 the next morning.

It has brand new tires and brakes.

However, it's one of the non-supercharged SS's. It also is missing a few other options, like the satellite radio. Because it's not supercharged, it does feel a little more doggy than the two Impalas, but certainly no worse than my '05 Impala LS.

The dealer is asking $11,995 for it, but I talked them down to $9,999 (again, they won't go any lower than this). They have full maintenance records for this car, and nothing looks amiss. The CarFax does show it involved in an accident about three years ago, but according to the body-shop record in the car, it involved only $200 of repair to the front bumper.

This car fits like a glove, which is nice, but I am bugged by the non-supercharged engine after having driven the other two super-charged cars.



So, those are the three cars I've narrowed my choice down to. What do you all think (without actually having seen or driven the cars and only going on my brief descriptions). If it was you, which one would you choose?

Thanks all!

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you like the silver (which would be a deal-breaker for me) then it's a no-brainer...The 2005 is the better choice... Shocked ...Ben

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I would get the 05 Impala, or the 04 as a second option.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Another W-Body to consider is the 2004 & up Grand Prix. The GTP and the GTP CompG are supercharged models. Both have the same motor as the SS, except it has a more efficient supercharger which makes more boost and has more power. The car is very stable at high speed, and with the CompG package it handles very well. The package also includes a manual mode trans with steering wheel shift buttons, 3.29 final drive gears for quicker acceleration, and lightweight 10-spoke 17" wheels. I had a 2004 GTP CompG before I got the G8 and it was a great car plus it looks good.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Another W-Body to consider is the 2004 & up Grand Prix. The GTP and the GTP CompG are supercharged models. Both have the same motor as the SS, except it has a more efficient supercharger which makes more boost and has more power. The car is very stable at high speed, and with the CompG package it handles very well. The package also includes a manual mode trans with steering wheel shift buttons, 3.29 final drive gears for quicker acceleration, and lightweight 10-spoke 17" wheels. I had a 2004 GTP CompG before I got the G8 and it was a great car plus it looks good.



Actually the GP GT has an L32 motor in it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Personally I would go with the '05. I don't like the looks of the Monte's, so that one would be out, so it is a no brainer between the other imps, IMHO. I also don't like the plasticy c*** of the gran prix's so that would be out too.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

I say the silver one, but I might be a bit biased. Cool

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Actually the GP GT has an L32 motor in it.

The 2006 & up GT has the supercharged L32 motor, and in 2004 & 2005 the GTP had the S/C L32 motor. In 2006 Pontiac dropped the GTP and the CompG, and made the GT supercharged, with the base model having the normally aspirated motor 3.8 motor.

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I also don't like the plasticy c*** of the gran prix's so that would be out too.
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What plastic parts are you talking about on the Grand Prix?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Id say go with the 05 silver SS Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i'd say the 05 silver or the monte carlo cuz you can always topswap if u went that far with it Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

DonRome wrote:
PushrodPower wrote:
Actually the GP GT has an L32 motor in it.

The 2006 & up GT has the supercharged L32 motor, and in 2004 & 2005 the GTP had the S/C L32 motor. In 2006 Pontiac dropped the GTP and the CompG, and made the GT supercharged, with the base model having the normally aspirated motor 3.8 motor.


Yeah like I said. The Impala SS's have the L67 3.8.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If the dealer will fix the problems on the silver SS, I'd say go for that. If not, go with the black SS.

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Actually the GP GT has an L32 motor in it.

The 2006 & up GT has the supercharged L32 motor, and in 2004 & 2005 the GTP had the S/C L32 motor. In 2006 Pontiac dropped the GTP and the CompG, and made the GT supercharged, with the base model having the normally aspirated motor 3.8 motor.


Yeah like I said. The Impala SS's have the L67 3.8.

The L32 is basically an L67 with a more efficient supercharger, which is what I stated:

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Both have the same motor as the SS, except it has a more efficient supercharger which makes more boost and has more power.

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None, they all seem overpriced. I remember 2 years ago 04-05 models were already around that price range.

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None, they all seem overpriced. I remember 2 years ago 04-05 models were already around that price range.


x2 on that they were going for around 10Kish in 08 in my area as well give or take a few

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