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Coolant Leak... $1200 to get fixed?!? (What part is it?)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject:  Coolant Leak... $1200 to get fixed?!? (What part is it?) Reply with quote

Ok.. so I have a coolant leak (2001 Chevy Impala LS, 112xxx miles) and after reading all the horror stories decided to get it checked out immediately...

I have a warranty on the car so i figured ha! if its the casket im covered!

So i take it to the Chevy dealership.. they give me a rental and im on my way..
get a phonecall that they see the leak but the warranty company wants me to approve of them tearing into the engine because they think its a cylinder head because its leaking so much. I tell them the car has not overheated at all, (but i see that cylinder heads are covered under my warranty) so i say ok. Told me if its the cylinder head, its covered if not, im taking a 1k shot. ouch.

They get into it and see that its a plastic tube going across the intake that is leaking so they are saying that the tube isnt covered so im lookin at 1200 for them to fix it 0_0

what I want to know from you guys is what plastic tube could they be talking about??? i feel like i was swindled for them to get 1k out of me and they already knew it was the tube... :/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

It's probably the lower intake manifold gasket, but even that repair should max out at 900 dollars at a dealer. Call them back and find out exactly what they are repairing... it sounds like they are trying to swindle you.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

yeah thats how i feel.. from what i understand they was sayin it would be 1000 to look into seeing if its the cylinder head.. seemingly along the way they saw it was the "tube" *smh* i gotta wait til tommorrow to call them back they are closed now FTL
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If its the lower intake gasket you're getting shafted worse than I, and I thought I got it bad @ $350 iirc.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The LIM repair price varies wildly depending on if you take it to a Mom and Pop mechanic or the dealer. Hell mine was 800 bucks and I wasn't too upset considering how long it takes to do.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The only plastic tubes I know of are the coolant elbows. They run like $14 total?
https://www.zzperformance.com/.....;catid=103
Changing them out is an hour or two, depending on how patient you are during the process. Dude, don't let Chevy rip you off.
Tell them you have the largest Impala club on earth that will take their good name and drag it through the mud if they dare screw with your hard earned money.
Edit: READ THE WARRANTY CAREFULLY. Most of them do not cover gaskets. Which means if they tear the heads off and it's just a gasket and the head is mechanically sound, guess who's out a grand or so right there. They won't tell you that either.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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The only plastic tubes I know of are the coolant elbows. They run like $14 total?
https://www.zzperformance.com/.....;catid=103
Changing them out is an hour or two, depending on how patient you are during the process. Dude, don't let Chevy rip you off.
Tell them you have the largest Impala club on earth that will take their good name and drag it through the mud if they dare screw with your hard earned money.
Edit: READ THE WARRANTY CAREFULLY. Most of them do not cover gaskets. Which means if they tear the heads off and it's just a gasket and the head is mechanically sound, guess who's out a grand or so right there. They won't tell you that either.


THATS what basically happened! they tore into it, found out it was just a "tube" from my understanding. i will ask more tommorrow to see if they actually took anything apart i.e. can i just take it home and see what i can do.

and on my warranty under engine it list "....lifters, cylinder head, valves and guides, valve springs..." then a little later says "...timing belt tensioner, intake and exhaust mainifolds, flywheel, balance shafts, harmonic blancer and retainer bolt..."

and it has a section called "Seals and Gaskets"
"All Seals and gaskets on the assemblies listed in engine, transmission, front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, streering, front suspension and brakes"

makes me wish i would have told them no about getting into the engine to even check the cylinder head and just dealt with it later.. *smh*
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

They should have been able to find it without taking the top of the engine off......
http://www.naioa.com/v2/module.....mp;t=17376
I would print out these steps and take them to the dealership to let them know you are aware of the total labor involved so they can't B.S. you.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

ok thanks!

plus the only other coolant hose i was able to even get a google hit about was the Coolant Bypass hose that runs under the intake mainfold... and apparently it isnt available for the aftermarket.. :/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

plastic tube in the intake manifold?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

i think under apparently.... So if thats all it is and they havent done much of anything im picking it up asap.

***EDIT UPDATE****
ahh so they are screwing me either way... if i dont let them do the work, its still 800 for the labor and i have to tow the car out... then i have to pay for the rental(3 days) ...

looked up the parts.. and its 3 tubes they said one goes across the V valley..
#12565082
#24503423
#12575714

and they said while they are in there "the gasket gets replaced"

so its $1200... Shocked im SO screwed.. lol....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

These are the elbows I was talking about......They don't go across the "Valley". The valley has a huge lower intake manifold in it with an upper on top of it. The go on the passenger side of the engine. The upper elbow is GM p/n 12565082, and the lower one is 24503423.
12575714 I could not verify...maybe Zspot could.
Only the alternator and tensioner assy get pulled for these, not the heads. There is no reason for the heads to be pulled for this.

Edit to my edit: They might be talking about the tube that sits in the upper intake manifold.....It's dirt cheap. I agree that maybe they mean LIM and UIM gaskets which have to be replaced if they pulled the intake. But still 1200 is very expensive. You're talking about only $50 in parts.

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Domo wrote:
i think under apparently.... So if thats all it is and they havent done much of anything im picking it up asap.

***EDIT UPDATE****
ahh so they are screwing me either way... if i dont let them do the work, its still 800 for the labor and i have to tow the car out... then i have to pay for the rental(3 days) ...

looked up the parts.. and its 3 tubes they said one goes across the V valley..
#12565082
#24503423
#12575714

and they said while they are in there "the gasket gets replaced"

so its $1200... Shocked im SO screwed.. lol....


What gaskets? If they pulled the heads and replaced the head gaskets, I'd stir up a huge s**t storm since they rarely, if ever go bad. If its the LIM gasket, I wouldn't be as upset because they fail in almost every single one of these cars and you would end up having it done in the future anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

That other line is an air injection pipe. It has nothing to do with a coolant leak. But being a 2001, it was probably brittle and broke when they started tearing into it.

Did they pin point the leak? Because if how I'm reading your posts,.. is that the elbows are leaking. That by no means warrants removing the intake manifolds. They must be trying to kill a few birds with one stone.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

ZSPOT wrote:
That other line is an air injection pipe. It has nothing to do with a coolant leak. But being a 2001, it was probably brittle and broke when they started tearing into it.

Did they pin point the leak? Because if how I'm reading your posts,.. is that the elbows are leaking. That by no means warrants removing the intake manifolds. They must be trying to kill a few birds with one stone.


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AT MOST you'd have to remove the alt bracket, I can swap them out in a 1/2 hour or so....
The LIM gaskets, prob 2 hours (same w/ head gaskets) If they pull the heads to "inspect" the gaskets, you'll need to replace them anyway...
The only HG failures I have seen on our cars are either from improper torquing or massive amounts of boost


Hell FWIW I'm running FelPros on a 3.0" pulley

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