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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject:  16" --> 17" Wheels Reply with quote

I've got the standard 16" wheels on my 2004 Impala LS. I'd like to upgrade to the 17" wheels found on the Impala SS. Is this possible? How can one do this without throwing off the speedometer, odometer, etc.? Will my car drive better or worse?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

225/45/17 is the tire size you need to use IIRC
you cant use the 225/55 b/c the rear tire will hit the strut mount

it will not throw off your speedo too much....honestly, I noticed a 1mph change in the speedo

the ride is the same.....but makes the car look soooo much better Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

The size of the rim doesn't affect you speedometer. It's the rolling diameter of the tire you put on it. As long as that matches your old tire's rolling diameter, you're fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

GrapeJelly05 wrote:
225/45/17 is the tire size you need to use IIRC
you cant use the 225/55 b/c the rear tire will hit the strut mount

it will not throw off your speedo too much....honestly, I noticed a 1mph change in the speedo

the ride is the same.....but makes the car look soooo much better Exclamation

I have 225/55/17 tires on all four of my wheels and I have no rubbing issues. What would make the SS 17 inch wheels any different that a 55 profile tire won't work?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Your rim offset would make the difference would it not?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Hmm.. never really understood what made the offset's different, nor do I actually know what my offset is on my 17's.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

SS comes with a 235/55/17 which is taller. If they do hit the strut, that'd be why but I don't see it being an issue.

The proper size if you have stock 16's is 225/55/17 for 17" tires. The rim offsets shouldn't be an issue.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote

If you throw "stock" 17" wheels on a base model Impala, the 55 series will hit the rear strut. Been there, done that.

Kevin's aftermarket rims probably are offset just enough to avoid rubbing issues.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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If you throw "stock" 17" wheels on a base model Impala, the 55 series will hit the rear strut. Been there, done that.

Kevin's aftermarket rims probably are offset just enough to avoid rubbing issues.

The fitment was recommended by Tire Rack.. so I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing. Just a shame I'm too much of a doof to know what they recommended Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Took a look for your wheels on tirerack, they dont even list them for the Impala. Found out its a 5x114.3 wheel which will work in most instances. I think its a 38 offset. Also its very lightweight, under 20lbs.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

These wheels were a close out special. They sold for like $180 a wheel on clearance, but I got them through a buddy who works at a dealership for $910 with wheel and tire from tirerack. I know they're fairly light weight at about 52lbs per wheel with the all season kumho ecsta radials mounted and balanced on them. I know that these wheels are a dual lug pattern, however, I only know that one set of the holes is actually a 5x115. I don't know much more about them. See, I thought that any 225/55/R17 tire would fit on any 17 inch wheel for the Impala. As I see, I must have lucked out because these things are far enough from the bottom flat portion of the strut that no amount of load in the trunk of my car will cause my wheels to rub. On Wednesday night as a matter of fact, I had 5 wheels w/ tires mounted and my 80lb sub box in the trunk and I didn't have any issues with clearance wasn't enough to cause me problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

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Took a look for your wheels on tirerack, they dont even list them for the Impala. Found out its a 5x114.3 wheel which will work in most instances. I think its a 38 offset. Also its very lightweight, under 20lbs.


You sho it's not 5 on 115???
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Personally, I love the look of the diamond cut wheels. I'm in the process of upgrading from my 16" steelies to 17" myself, and am going with the Neutron wheels from Center Line (diamond pattern, 5 x 115, 7" width, 42mm offset). I'll be running 225/55/17 tires. Considering both the jump from 6.5" to 7" width and the offset change from 52mm to 42mm (I think that's right) from steelies to these, I'll gain 0.15" in the back which I'm hoping will help them clear the strut.

Not that I'm doubting the guys who have done it, but jumping from 225/60/16 to 225/55/17 is only a 0.1" difference. That seriously makes it rub?

To answer the question about your speedometer, I worked it out in excel and here are the numbers for a few different speeds. The difference increases as you speed up. First number is the reading on your speedo, second number is your actual speed with the 0.1" larger diameter tire.

5 MPH, 5.02 MPH
25, 25.11
60, 60.27
90, 90.40
145, 145.65

As you can see, "but officer, these are aftermarket rims which screws up my speedometer. I honestly didn't know" won't be a valid excuse for you. You can always try, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

Kevin wrote:
On Wednesday night as a matter of fact, I had 5 wheels w/ tires mounted and my 80lb sub box in the trunk and I didn't have any issues with clearance wasn't enough to cause me problems.
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That a lot of junk in yo trunk! Gotta love the storage capacity.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote

aresf11 wrote:
Kevin wrote:
On Wednesday night as a matter of fact, I had 5 wheels w/ tires mounted and my 80lb sub box in the trunk and I didn't have any issues with clearance wasn't enough to cause me problems.
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That a lot of junk in yo trunk! Gotta love the storage capacity.

Trunk and back seat.. but still centered over the rear wheels. Car suprisingly doesn't handle that bad with 380 lbs of extra crap in the back seat and trunk and an extra 410 lbs in the front seat between me and my friend. Can't exactly corner much in a car loaded down that much, but it certainly didn't raise any safety concerns to me.
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